Monday 30 September 2024

Folklore relating to burials in Kilcommon, Co. Tipperary

 


 

Where your Ryan ancestors were buried, isn't always near where they lived.

For example in this bit of folklore here from Kilcommon relating to graveyards, we see the following recorded;

"Many are taken long distances to be buried i.e. to Dunohill, Killanare, Killnarath, Upperchurch, Glankeen, Tower Hill, Tuam, Doon, Kilpatrick."

https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4922168/4857881


Donohill (Not recorded)

Killanure (Ballinure?)

Kilnarath

Upperchurch

Glankeen

Tower Hill

Toem (Not recorded)

Doon

Kilpatrick (Not recorded)

Families interred in Kilcommon

Quigly, Carr, Some of the Carey Families, Hanly, Hayes, O'Brien, Ryan (Dubh), Ryan (Davy), Nolan or Nowlan, Shanahan, Barrett, Clarke, Some Kennedy family, Connell or O'Connell, Ryan (Steele)

Interred in Dunohill (near Tipp) From here
Ryan (Rabaire), Ryan Rody

In Killanave near Dolla
Some Kennedy Families, Scanlan, Berkery

In Upperchurch
O'Doherty, Shanahan, Ryan

In Kilnarath near Newport
Collins, Ryan, Caplis

In Kilpatrick
Burke, O'Dwyer

In Tower Hill, Co. Limerick
O'Carroll, Meagher
In Ballinaclough near Nenagh O'Kennedy
In Kilkeary near Nenagh O'Kennedy
In Toom near Doon - Hickey

Friday 27 September 2024

The Grave of the Yellow Men

 


I’ve always been fascinated by this evocatively named site. It brings to mind my own local site, the Graves of the Leinstermen.

The folklore related to these graves isn’t as old though and seems to relate to local folklore and records from the 1930s in the Irish Folklore Commission’s Schools Manuscripts.


In a record from Doonaha it says the following:

“Near here is the grave of the "Yellow Men" where 9 shipwrecked Frenchmen were buried about 60 years ago. Their ship was in difficulties and they threw a rope ashore by which 9 were saved. One of the local young men however cut part of this fine rope (which was considerably too long at first) so that when the ship drifted a little away from the shore the cut rope was too short and useless to save the others who were drowned in that spot.”

https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/5162147/5158738/5198121

Another reference to Yellow Men relates to a different incident and shipwrecks from the Spanish Armada.

“When the Spanish Armada was sent to conquer England a storm occurerd and parted the fleet. Many of the ships were wrecked some of them off the West Coast of Ireland especially off the coast of Clare near Quilty. Some of the bodies were recovered and buried in a neighbouring graveyard known as Kilfarboy "Cill Fear Buide" or church of the Yellow men or Spaniards.”

https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4922397/4877881/5076563

Another reference backs up the supposed meaning behind the name Kilfarboy.

“The parish was known as Cill Fear Bhuidhe or the church of the yellow men.”

https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4922388/4876725/5085127

This ties in more with the local information board on site, rather than being “French-men” they were Spanish.

The information board says 

“The story surrounds nine or eleven ' yellow men' who are buried here in a mass grave looking over the Atlantic. It was originally thought that they were oriental, possibly from China or Japan (only because of the phrase, yellow men) However, it should not be forgotten that when the Spanish Armada landed in Ireland - the Spanish were referred Yellow Men. The foregoing research would suggest that anywhere from Spain, Portugal to Morocco and to as Tunisia to Egypt would more likely be their Point of departure.”


I have to admit that initially when I heard the term “Yellow Men” it stereotypically I thought of the story of Inuits that were supposed to have been sighted in Northern Scotland in the past.

There were known as Finn-men and there are a number of different explanations for how they may have arrived in Northern Scotland.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finn-men

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14788810.2020.1838819#abstract

The graves are in a really rugged location, it is great that the local community have retained and recorded the folklore in relation to the shipwreck and it shows the importance of doing so.

There is one other reference to "Yellow Men" on duchas.ie and it relates to Co. Louth but there is no explanation as to why the field has that name.  

"Another field in Mayne is called Cnoc Feara Buidhe which mean's the hill of the yellow men."

https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/5008853/4961152/5075004

Mayne is a coastal area so maybe there was a ship wreck there also?

Thursday 26 September 2024

Hearth Money Rolls - Portryan / Newport / Foxhall

 


In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665
The following names were recorded in Newport / Foxhall townland (Puoryne Bryen).

Portryan is an area in Foxhall the exact boundaries of I’m not 100% sure.

Wm.

Lacy

Mortagh

McKeogh

Loughlen

Samuell

Robert

Hugles

John

Anglee

Wm.

McPhillip

 

There was no 1666-7 return.

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression.

So in this case we have William Lacey. There are a mix of names McKeogh & Huges are Gaelic names. Samuel I would imagine is an English name allow the first name doesn’t seem English to me. John Anglee I’m not sure about. It may be Anglesey / Anglesee. No Samuels in it.

There is also a Mc surname, likely to be descendants of someone else rather than surnames in their own right eg in this case I think William McPhilip may be William son of Philip O’Brien for example.

There is the 1766 census available for the general area but unless someone has a very distinct surname it is nearly impossible to make any kind of connection.

https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/census/1766-rel-cens/newport.htm

There are two Lacys – Malachy & Pat. The name is rare so there may be a possibility of them being linked? There is also a Henry Lee, I wonder could that be linked to Anglee?

The next available "Census" for the area is the Tithe Appointment Books 1827.

There are no HMR surnames.

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Kilvolane&townland=Fox%20Hole&search=Search

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Kilvolane&townland=Foxhall&search=Search

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Kilvolane&townland=Newport&search=Search

 

There is also an 1835 census available for the Parishes of Newport and Birdhill (transcribed by Hugh Sweeney of Newport Historical & Archaeological Society in Newport News).

There is a George Lacy on main street Newport. The only Lacy in the 1835 census, I have included him as it is a rare surname on also in the townland of Newport which this return partly covers.

 

Foxhall & Lackland

Capt. John O'Brien

Revd. Dr. John Penefather

Michael Hanrahan

Mary Foley

Patrick Kenedy

Michael Herbert

Patrick Thorns

Michael Gleeson

Thomas McMahon

Portryan

Thomas Wixted

Patrick Shinners

Michael Ryan (Gouge)

Patrick Collins

Newport Town – Main Street (only included as Lacy is such a rare name)

George Lacy

 

In the later Griffiths valuation (see pictures); no HMR surnames carry through.






There is a Malachy Lacy in Tullow though at this point.


The 1901 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Newport/Foxhall/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Newport/Newport/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Newport/Newport_Main_Street/

 

No HMR names.

And 1911 Census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Newport/Foxhall/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Newport/Newport/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Newport/Main_Street/

 

Again no HMR names. I’m not convinced that Main Street should be included here but I have left it in. There is a James Lacy as a head of a family on Pound Street in Newport and I think with a bit more research it could be possible to link him back to William Lacy of the Hearth Money Rolls.

As a later exercise will also try and look at the Civil Survey – Transplantation records – Hearth Money Rolls but I think I will keep that as a separate exercise.


My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Owney records.
https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html


Wednesday 25 September 2024

Boleycarrigeen Stone Circle, Co. Wicklow.

 


This stone circle is described on Archaeology.ie as follows;

"Situated in forestry on a low E-W ridge with extensive views to the N, E and S. Known locally as the 'Griddle Stones'. Circular site (int. diam. 13.5m) at present defined by eleven evenly spaced upright stones (1.3-1.8m apart). The entrance (Wth 1.3m) is at the SSW. The stones appear to rise in height from the entrance (H 1.3m) to the tallest stones (H 1.4-1.88m) at the NNE. The circle is on the inner edge of an earthen bank (Wth 1.75m (at the SE) to 2m (at the SW); H 0.4m). There are no stones in the NW quadrant or at E. A tumulus (WI027-040----) lies 75m to the E."






These photos were before the trees where harvested in the last few years and I believe they are starting to grow back now again. A number of astronomical alignments have been proposed over the years. Tom Fourwinds of www.megalithomania.com and Ken Williams www.shadowandstones.com jointly propose that this circle is aligned to winter solstice sun-set. Ken Williams took some photos in early January that suggest they are correct (See below).

I also note Professor Ronald Hicks suspects that the circle may also be aligned to the summer solstice sun-rise as the tallest stone in the circle marks its rising position.

Brian Doyle of Archaeoastronomy Ireland proposes a number of alignments here - https://www.facebook.com/share/p/mxheZB3jPxAC9mje/

And these may even be linked to the Cursus on the slopes of Keedan Mt https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Looking-west-along-the-line-of-the-Keadeen-cursus-with-the-causewayed-enclosures-of_fig4_380112877

 

Hearth Money Rolls - Scraggeen

 


In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665
The following names were recorded in Scraggeen townland (Gortnonow / Gortnanowe ).

Gortnanoe is an area within the townland of Scraggeen.

Donnogh

Kelly

Mahowne

McTeige

Jokn

Marcane

Danniell

Hicky

 

There was also a 1666-7 return as follows.

Donnogh

Kelly

John

McConnor

Mahon

McTeige

Nicholas

Humphrey

Daniell

McTeige

Teige

McHenry

Kenedy

Bryan

Teige

McDaniell

Donogh

O'Donogh

Donogh

Cartye

 

 

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression.

So in this case we have Donagh Kelly. The rest are mainly Gaelic surnames with Hickey, O’Brien, O’Donoghue and possibly McCarthy. Humphry may be of Anglo-Norman origin and interestingly there is a Nicholas Humphry recorded in Clonbunny & Rossary More & Rossary Beg (above). There are also some Mc surnames, likely to be descendants of someone else rather than surnames in their own right eg in this case I think Daniell McTeige may be the same as Daniel Hickey in the 1665 return. If that is the case then we can probably say that he is Daniell Hickey son of Teige Hickey (and that allows you to push things back one further generation here.

Jokn Marcane may be John McConnor in the 2nd list.

 

There is the 1766 census available for the general area but unless someone has a very distinct surname it is nearly impossible to make any kind of connection.

https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/census/1766-rel-cens/newport.htm

There are two Humphreys – Nicholas & William. With the same first name there must be a good chance that they are linked?

The Gaelic surnames would be nearly impossible to link together. However one of interest is Carty / McCarthy. The 1766 census has a Philip Carty in it.

There are 5 Hickeys in the Census including a Daniel Hickey.

The next available "Census" for the area is the Tithe Appointment Books 1827.

It only features one person and its not a HMR name.

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Kilvolane&townland=Gruleranane&search=Search

There is also an 1835 census available for the Parishes of Newport and Birdhill (transcribed by Hugh Sweeney of Newport Historical & Archaeological Society in Newport News).

There are no HMR names.

Scrageen

John Callaghan

John Buckley

John Hayes

Michael Ryan

John Ryan

Michael Magrath

Daniel Magrath

Patrick Ryan (Ouge)

Gurtnanoe

John Powel

John Hogan (Senior)

John Hogan (Junior)

Michael Hogan

Michael McKeogh

Patrick Callaghan

Patrick Ryan

Widow Ryan

Widow McGrath

Ross Gurtnanoe

James McMahon

John McMahon

Widow McMahon (Wm.)

Widow McMahon (John)

In the later Griffiths valuation (see pictures); no HMR surnames carry through.





The 1901 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Newport/Scraggeen/

No HMR names.

And 1911 Census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Newport/Scraggeen/

Again no HMR names. In a way this shows just how rare it is when surnames do carry down through the various records from the Hearth Money Rolls.

 

As a later exercise will also try and look at the Civil Survey – Transplantation records – Hearth Money Rolls but I think I will keep that as a separate exercise.


My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Owney records.
https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html



Sunday 22 September 2024

Hearth Money Rolls - Clonbunny & Rossary More / Beg

 



In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665
The following names were recorded in Clonbunny & Rossary More & Rossary Beg townland (Ballivakeagh, Cloanbonny and Rosary Vill.).

 

Danniell

Barry

Donnogh

Ryane

Miles

Bourk

Teige

Meara

Teige

McKeogh

Walter

Bourk

Danniell

McSeada

Connor

Oge

John

McWm

Wm.

McRogers

Wm.

Faser

Martin

Gelbert

Mathew

Gelbert

John

Gelbert

Hugh

Meara

Robert

Sintt

Nicholas

Humphry

Shibe

Wimble

Wm.

Pamer

 

There was also a 1666-7 return as follows.

John      McRory

Daniell  Barry

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression.

So in this case we have Daniell Barry. In the 2nd return he is recorded as having 2 hearths. He is likely to be of Anglo-Norman descent. There are a mixture of surnames, Bourke, Sinnott, Humphry and possibly Gilbert are also Anglo-Norman. Palmer is likely to be of English origin, Fraser and Wimble? I’m not sure about.

There are a number of Gaelic names in the townland, Ryan, O’Meara, McKeogh & Sheedy. There are also some Mc surnames, likely to be descendants of someone else rather than surnames in their own right eg John McWm might actually be John Son of William Barry.

 

There is the 1766 census available for the general area but unless someone has a very distinct surname it is nearly impossible to make any kind of connection.

https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/census/1766-rel-cens/newport.htm

No Gilbert, Fraser, Palmer, Sinott.

There are two Humphreys – Nicholas & William. With the same first name there must be a good chance that they are linked?

There is a (Michael) Barry but that is a name that might be more difficult to link together.

Bourke and the Gaelic surnames would be nearly impossible to link together.

The next available "Census" for the area is the Tithe Appointment Books 1827.

Only Ryans continue from the HMRs.

Clonbunny

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Kilvolane&townland=Clonconey&search=Search

Rossary

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Kilvolane&townland=Rosary&search=Search

There is also an 1835 census available for the Parishes of Newport and Birdhill (transcribed by Hugh Sweeney of Newport Historical & Archaeological Society in Newport News). Clonbunny may be known by a different name but Rossary Beg & More is likely covered.

Ryan being the only surname that carries through from the HMR.

Rossarry & Mount Rivers

John Hogan

Michael White

Owen Hynes

David Lynch

Patrick Hogan

John Ryan (Tom)

Widow Hogan

Denis Moloney

John Magrath

John McMahon

Roger Farrell

John Moloney

John Griffan

Thomas O'Donnell

James Stack

Richard Philips Esq.

William O'Brien

Widow William Ryan

In the later Griffiths valuation (see pictures); again it is only Ryan that carries through from the HMRs.




The 1901 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Newport/Clonbunny/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Newport/Rossary_More/

Ryans are still in the townland and Bourke has reappeared from the HMRs.

 

And 1911 Census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Newport/Clonbunny/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Newport/Rossarymore/

Ryans are still recorded and again Bourkes. However it is impossible to make any conclusive connection between these families and those in the HMRs.

 

As a later exercise will also try and look at the Civil Survey – Transplantation records – Hearth Money Rolls but I think I will keep that as a separate exercise.


My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Owney records.
https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html

 

Thursday 19 September 2024

Hearth Money Rolls - Garraun & Rossfinch

 


In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665

The following names were recorded in Garraun / Rossfinch townland (Garrane / Garran & Rosfonchen).

John

House

John

Joanes

Dermott

Fyne

Bartho.

Roppingale

Wm.

McMorrrish

Robert

McMorrish

Owen

McConnelly

 

In the 1666-67 return the following were noted.

Ineligible

Barth.

O'Riplegate

Donnogh

Hyne

Thomas

Spaldon

Owen

O'Connor

Ellen

Roe

John

Howse

George

Wincencroft

Rory

McGrath

Mary

Ny Rory

 

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression.

So in the 1665 return that is John House / Howse. He is further down the list in the 2nd return. In the 1666-67 return the main landowner is “Illegible”, they have 2 hearths. If we compare the two lists we can see who the illegible name wasn’t but can’t really be sure who it was. Possible John Jones as he is 2nd in the 1665 list but isn’t included in the 1666-7 list but it is impossible to be sure.

These townlands seem to have had a had a good few changes. Names that appear to be of English origin and therefore likely recent settlers included the above mentioned Howse, Jones, Ripplingale, Spalden and Wincencroft.

Ripplingale seems to be the most likely modern spelling for Roppingale / O’Riplegate. It is interesting that Riplegate has a O’ attached to it and must surely be an error in transcription.

Thomas Spalden is interesting. There is also a Thomas Spalden included the return for Rossagule. That doesn’t sound that unusual but so far in my research this is the only instance of the same person being due tax in two different townlands.

The Gaelic surnames in the townland include Hynes, O’Connor, Roe & McGrath. Owen O’Connor is surprisingly one of the few O’Connor surnames recorded in the HMRs for the area, we have a number of McConnors etc. There are also Mc surnames, likely to be descendants of someone else rather than surnames in their own right eg William McMorrish might actually be William Son of Morrish Ryan. There are also two females recorded in the townland; Ellen Roe unusually seems to be a stand alone without a Ny or Ne attached to the surname.

We also have Mary Ny Rory. This seems confusing at first, however the record above her is Rory McGrath so I think she may be Mary daughter or wife of Rory McGrath.  

There is the 1766 census available for the general area but unless someone has a very distinct surname it is nearly impossible to make any kind of connection.

https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/census/1766-rel-cens/newport.htm

There is an Owen Hines in the Census.

No variants of Ripplingate, Spalden, Jones, Wincencroft.

The next available "Census" for the area is the Tithe Appointment Books 1827

I’m not sure of the Garraun part, whether it is named differently or wasn’t recorded.

Rossfinch

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=&firstname=&county=Tipperary&townland=Ross+Tinch&parish=Kilnarath&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=0

No HMR names.

There is also an 1835 census available for the Parishes of Newport and Birdhill (transcribed by Hugh Sweeney of Newport Historical & Archaeological Society in Newport News) but Garraun / Rossfinch do not feature.

 

In the later Griffiths valuation (see picture), James McGrath is listed from the HMR.

 








The 1901 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Birdhill/Garraun/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Birdhill/Rossfinch/

A McGrath features in Rossfinch.

And 1911 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Birohill/Garraun/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Birohill/Rossfinch/

Again there is a McGrath who is listed as a relative of another family in the townland.

There is a McGrath listed in the HMR and Griffiths valuation but it is a relatively common name in the area so difficult to link with any certainty.

There are some really interesting surnames in the HMR but none seem to carry on in the townland / area.

My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Owney records.

https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html

Tuesday 17 September 2024

Hearth Money Rolls - Rossaguile

 


In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665

The following names were recorded in Rossaguile townland (Rosigeill / Rosgeile).

 

Bourke

Storyne

Willm

Layne

Morrish

Pooro

Thomas

Spalden

 

In the 1666-67 return the following were noted.

Bourke

Storyin

Mort

Moronane

Loghnen

Hallynane

Daniell

McDonogh

WIlliam

Butler

4 names ineligible

Richard

Power

Mathew

Hogan

WIlliam

Roche

Robert

Knight

Daniell

Skehan

Walter

Bourke

WIlliam

Dowyne

Thurloc

Bryan

Teige

Ryan

WIlliam

Ryan

William

Daaly

Edmund

Barry

Teige

McOwen

Rich.

Rusell

 

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression.

The main landowner seems to be a Bourke Storyin / Storyen? I’m not sure of the surname but I’d imagine it is English in origin. A small possibility is that his surname is Bourke but somehow it was  mistranscribed? There is also a Spalden which again sounds English in origin. Pooro could be Power or it could be an unusual English surname. Knight could be English or Gaelic.

The rest of the surnames seem to be Gaelic / old Anglo-Norman and includes Moroney, Hallinan, Butler, Power, Hogan, Roche, Skehan, Bourke, Downey, O’Brien, Ryan, Daly, Barry & Russell. There are also two Mc surnames, likely to be descendants of someone else rather than surnames in their own right eg Teige McOwen might actually be Teige son of Owen Ryan.

There is the 1766 census available for the general area but unless someone has a very distinct surname it is nearly impossible to make any kind of connection.

https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/census/1766-rel-cens/newport.htm

One interesting name is Murtogh Downey, he is the only Downey in the Census. It is a relatively rare name in the area. Could he be linked to William Downey?

There is a Der. Daly as well, similarly a relatively rare surname, could there be a connection to William Daly?

There are two Roches recorded in 1766.

There are no Knights, Spaldens, Storyins or variants or Skehan.

There doesn’t appear to be many that could be connected in this census conclusively.

The next available "Census" for the area is the Tithe Appointment Books 1827

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Kilnarath&townland=Rosaguile%2CPoe&search=Search

There are Ryans but nothing conclusive.

There is also an 1835 census available for the Parishes of Newport and Birdhill (transcribed by Hugh Sweeney of Newport Historical & Archaeological Society in Newport News).

There are Ryans and O’Briens but nothing conclusive.

Daniel Ryan (Philips)

James Boland

Bridget Sheedy

John Flannery

Denis Flannery

Thomas Meehan

Michael Ryan

Martin Gleeson

Hanora O'Brien

Daniel Boland

John Ryan (Bohul)

In the later Griffiths valuation (see picture), again Ryans and an O’Brien but nothing conclusive.

 


The 1901 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Killoscully/Rossaguile/

There is one Ryan head of a family.

And 1911 Census https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Killoscully/Rossaguile/

There is one Ryan head of a family.

 

So although the Ryan name carries down to the 1901 / 1911, unfortunately it is too common a name to connect it back to the HMRs.

 

My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Owney records.

https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html