Sunday, 19 July 2020

Drumcullen on the border between Munster & Meath



Its hard to believe that this site not far from Birr / Kinnity in Offaly was once on the border between the Province of Meath and Munster. The nearby River Camcor acts as the boundary between Ely O'Carroll and Fir Cell.
It was originally a monastery founded by St. Barrind. In 1184 there was a meeting here between the Kings of Meath and Thomond. At this meeting Art O'Maelsechlainn was treacherously slain by Diarmuid O'Briain during what were supposed to be peace talks.
When the Normans arrived a Motte and Bailey was built (possibly by Hugh De Lacy) which again shows its strategic importance of this boundary between two kingdoms. Unfortunately the Bailey here was bull-dozed in the 1970s.




Saturday, 6 June 2020

Gallows Hill

Copyright Andrew Dunn - www.andrewdunnphoto.com

In the Arra area there are not one but two Gallows Hills marked on the old OS maps. Both known as Knocknacrohy or Cnoc na Croiche. Both I believe are attributed to the Mac I Briens who are thought to have ruled the area with an iron fist.

The first is at Pallas more. I don't have a lot of details on it. The old OS maps show two possible locations for it.

Copyright OSI / NMS
This one seems to show it on the east of the road and likely at the highest point (694).

Copyright OSI / NMS

This one doesn't give a clear location for the hill. Personally I always equated the mounds in the field marked on the map above with the red arrow as being the location of the Gallows. I could be wrong though, that is why I've put together this post. 

Copyright Google Street view

Ive marked the various mounds with red arrows on Google Streetview. So if anyone knows the definite location of Gallows Hill at Pallas, I'd be delighted to know? 

The second Gallows Hill in the area is in the townland of Greenhills, close to Kilmastulla graveyard. 

Copyright OSI / NMS

I have even less information about this one. From Google Streetview and Google Earth there doesn't appear to be any kind of earthworks or cropmarks there. Does anyone have any further information on the Gallows Hill there?

You know staying within your 5km is getting to you when you are writing about Gallow Hills using nothing but Google Earth and Streetview to research! The easing of restrictions can't come soon enough. Stay safe everyone. 

Wednesday, 27 May 2020

The Kings Well near Tipperary Town

Copright OSI

I first came across some folklore on duchas.ie relating to a well where Brian Boru is meant to have washed his wounds following the Battle of Soloheadbeg in 968.

"The Danes came to the hill of Brogue in the year 968. Brian Boru was going to Solohead to fight a battle with them. Brian won the battle. So after the battle Brian washed his wounds beside a well near Solohead and since then the district around it is called King's Well. At that time there was no town in Tipperary. The town was at Greenane about a mile outside the present town of Tipperary."

https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4922296/4867865/5055948

I posted about it over on my facebook page, asking if anyone can came across this well or the placename. Thanks to the magic of facebook and people helping each other on it, Barbara Daly Ledwidge gave me a lead that the northern edge of Tipperary Town is known as Kings Well on google maps.

A check on archaeology.ie was able to reveal the location of a well noted as "black well" on the 1840s OS map that is now sadly no longer there on the edge of the townlands of Sadlierwell & Carrownreddy.

It is described as follows:

"In pasture, on a W-facing slope, at townland boundary between Carrownreddy and Sadleirswells. There is no visible trace of this well above ground. It is named on the 1st (1840) ed. OS 6-inch map as 'Black Well'. The ground is poorly drained on either side of the townland boundary (Wth c. 1.5m). There is no local information of a well at this location, however it is frequently noted as a wet area. According to Flynn (1913, 8-9) 'Tubber Bryan' was the name of an old well 'which existed some 200 yards from the mote on Tipperary Hills, but which is now closed up'. It was so named because of a tradition that 'Brian Boro washed his wonds there after the battle of Sulcoit' (ibid.). The well is depicted on the Down Survey map (1655-6) as 'Tobburbrien' and is mentioned in the Civil Survey (1654-5) where 'Tobberbryen' appears to be the old name for this townland (Simington 1934 vol. 2, 38)."

Logaimn.ie seems to confirm this revealing the old name for Sadlierswell was Tobar Bhriain.
https://www.logainm.ie/en/49049?s=Sadleirswells

So from the top of the Motte in Tipperary Hills it is likely that the location of the former well is visible. It could be a nice way to tie in the story of the Battle of Sologhead and the turning point in the Dál gCais clan history to the town.

Edit 
Thanks to Gary Brannigan who found the location of the well on one of the Old OS maps. I have sent it to the NMS. 





Sunday, 3 May 2020

A recently discovered Megalithic Tomb at Aghnameadle


Aghnameadle Megalithic Tomb in North Tipp. Only discovered and recorded in 2017 by Tom Bán of Wovenworld bushcraft, it just shows that large structures can remain unknown in Ireland even today. Well done to Tom for finding this and bringing it to the attention of the NMS.

The area seems to be one of settlement for thousands of years with a nearby Motte and a castle belonging to the Egan clan which also doubled up as a medieval university.

The tomb it is described as follows on archaeology.ie

"Situated in slight hollow in undulating countryside with Ollatrim River 50m to NE and low hillock immediately to N. Field boundary running ENE-WSW immediately to SSE. Present remains consist of two upright orthostats their long axis aligned NE-SW standing 90cm apart with the remains of a large displaced capstone (dims. 1.75m x 1.4m x 0.45m) resting on E orthostat (dims. H 0.7m x L 1.17m x T. 0.3m) forming a small rectangular chamber (approx. dims. L 2.8m x Wth 0.9m). A second large recumbent stone immediately to N may be the remains of a collapsed side-stone or capstone. A semi-circular line of low stones immediately to N may represent kerbstones of a low mound (approx. diam. c. 3m). Possible remains of a megalithic tomb which has been partially destroyed. On the 1840 ed. OS 6-inch map the possible tomb is standing inside an irregular-shaped grove of trees which have since been removed."

Sunday, 19 April 2020

Donohill and O'Sullivan Beare


From the local signage

"for centuries Donohill was where the meal for the surrounding countryside was stored in a tower on the site of this fort. This precious grain was guarded by the O'Dwyers on whose land the fort was on. On their march to Leitrim, O'Sullivan Beare's soldiers, facing starvation, stormed the tower and succeeded in overpowering the O'Dwyers".

From Bantry Bay to Leitrum by Sommerville-Large pg 153

"There was one more sharp engagement before O'Sullivan reached the shelter of the hills. The O'Dwyers and the O'Ryans made a half-hearted effort to block the trail, but when the men from Beare advanced, they retreated "stricken with fear".


The picturesque graveyard across the road from the Motte where the famous Dan Breen is buried.


A really well researched and presented sign on the Beara Breifne way, I hope it is still in good condition.

Thursday, 9 April 2020

The Origins of the surname Ryan


NOTE: This is currently a work in progress and I ask for any feedback on what I have written.

Ryan is one of the top ten surnames by population / number of people in Ireland.

It would be nice if there was a simple explanation as to the meaning of the surname Ryan, unfortunately to my knowledge there isn't.

The most likely explanation is that it goes back to a King or Chief of Idrone circa 900AD named Rian or Rien. It was around this time that the Irish began taking on surnames and it may be that it was after him his descendants began to be called, O or descendent of Rian.

We are not sure how or when exactly the O'Mulryan name came about. It is likely that it means "descendent of the followers of Rian". However, this is not certain. We will see further down in this article that the genealogies suggest they are both descended from the same ancestor circa 900AD. Although other evidence does contradict this.

Just what Rian means is not known for sure. Explanations include "Little King", "Distinguished one","of noble sayings" or "tough".
Less flattering explanations for Rian include "sluggish" and for Mul that it means "bald"!

Now we dig deeper. 

Callinan in "The Four Tipperary Septs" on pg 56 includes "Rien" on a pedigree of the O'Mulrians (which he references to Mac Fibris). It doesn't give a date as to when he lived.

In Celtic Leinster by Alfred Smyth pg 128 he looks at "Rián" and his descendants  the "Ua Rián". He takes his information on this lineage from the Book of Leinster.

This Rián seems to have lived in the 800 / 900s based on a date that is given for his great-grand-uncle Drongal dying in 761AD.

This ties in with the information given in Bart Jaski's genealogical tables for the Uí Cheinnselaig (the ruling family of Leinster who Rian was a member of) which gives Rian as living at 900AD. See here.

Taking Mac Fibris's Mulryan pedigree (from a start date for Crumthan as 483 and using intervals of 30 years then is likely that this Rien may have lived circa 933AD.

This would suggest they are the same person. However the next in descent from Rien on Mac Fibris table, namely William, does not appear in Bart Jaski's table.

Maurice Gleeson looks at O'Harts Pedigree of the O'Ryan's hereAgain the descent is different so it is hard to known how reliable the "Rian" link is.


Further work needs to be done by checking the originals ie The Book of Leinster and Mac Firbris (which I think is based on the Book of Leinster).

Meaning of the name Rian.

Most first names have a meaning. For example my own name comes from the Germanic, "leader of his people". What Rian itself means is unclear, one surname solution given online a lot is that it is "little king". However I have yet to find the original reference for this. It is possible as Rí in Irish is King.

Dineen's Irish dictionary gives a multitude of meaning to the word Rian.

http://glg.csisdmz.ul.ie/popup.php?lang=irish&numero=0895-riamnac.png

For example "A distinguished one" or "of noble sayings" or a "pathway hewn through enemies" being some interesting ones. It also gives Rian as an early Irish word for the "sea".

O'Hart gives "Rien" as Righin in the Ryan pedigree here.
He gives a translation of this as "sluggish / dilatory" but in Dineen's Dictionary Righin can also mean "tough", see here.

Doing a google search brings up a number of explanations: 

The first on irishroots.com gives the following 

"Ryan is today one of the ten commonest surnames in Ireland. It is an anglicised form of the old Gaelic O'Maoilriaghain / O'Maoilriain, meaning 'descendant of a devotee of St Riaghan'."

This seems to do the rounds on various surname websites and sounds reasonable enough until you do a search for St. Riaghan

The only reference I have been able to find to a St. Riaghan in Irelands relates to a holy well dedicated to them in Glenties in Co. Donegal.

So I think that seems an unlikely solution to the meaning of the name purely due to geography. It could make sense if St. Riaghan was venerated in either Carlow or Tipp / Limerick.

I have managed to find St Riaghan in "A Dictionary of Irish Saints" by Padraig O Riain and he describes him as follows

"Ríoghán of Kilrean (Ceall Ríogháin), parish of Killybegs Lower, barony of Boylagh, Co. Donegal. Like his brothers, Manchán Míanach, and Rodaighe, the cruimhtear (presbyter), Ríoghán son of Fáilbhe belonged to the Ceinéal Boghaine branch of Ceinéal Conaill which gave name to the Donegal barony of Banagh. Although little else is known about this saint, whose name derives from rí, 'king', his church had the distinction of being selected as a place to be visited by Suibhne Gealt after the battle of Moira (Magh Rath) in 636. At Kilrean, from his perch in a tree, Suibhne was spoken to by the 'high-king', Domhnall son of Aodh, who had emerged victorious from the battle. The feast of the 'royal presbyter' Ríoghán fell on 9 August."

So from this it seems unlikely the name relates directly to St Riaghan or St Ríoghán as he was a Saint in a different part of the country and a different time-period. However O Riain does seem to confirm that Ríoghán derives from rí or king and so that may support the translation for Rian as "Little King".

How does this relate to the Mulryans?

Firstly it is unclear whether all Ryans are of the one origin. There are a number of locations from which the surname originated.  The main branches are the O'Ryans of Idrone in Carlow and the O'Mulryans of Owney & Owneybeg in Tipperary / Limerick.

Other smaller groups are the O'Mulrennans of Clanconnor in Roscommon which over time changed into Mulryan and later Ryan. O'Mulrennan is likely to be from O'Maoilbhréanainn or devotee of St. Brendan. The surname Ruane / Ruan seems also to have been changed into Ryan over the years as well. Its original origin is different and can be attributed to the Mayo & Galway areas.

It is likely that the O'Ryans or O'Mulryans were from Leinster or Laingan while the O'Mulrennans would be of Connacht origin and trace their origin to Muireadach Maoilleathan, a King of Connacht.
The O'Ryans stayed in the Leinster region and were Chiefs or sometimes styled "Princes" of Idrone, which was a tuath or later barony in Carlow / Kilkenny. Essentially they would have been local kings of a their own "country" with an overking, in their case the King of Leinster.

The O'Mulryans also seem to be of Leinster origin and according to ancient genealogies descend from a joint ancestor to the O'Ryans. Why and exactly when they left the Leinster area to head to the Tipp / Limerick border in Owney & Owneybeg is not fully known.

It is likely that if you have the surname Ryan, that you are descended from the O'Mulryans of Owney & Owneybeg. They would be the most populous branch of what later became the surname Ryan.

Mac Lysaght says this about the Mulryans (Irish Families pg145):

"Ryan's are really O'Mulryans - this earlier form of the name is, however, now almost obsolete: even in the census of 1659 in Co. Limerick Ryan outnumbers Mulryan by about four to one, and today there is not one O'Mulryan or Mulryan in the telephone directory."

Meaning of Mul

Woulfe states that Maoil or Maol generally is a descendant or follower, often of a saint. However this is not universally the case eg Ó Maoilmhín is "descendant of a polish chief" or Ó Maolaidh which means "descendant of a speckled chief". Woulfe almost substitutes it for "Chief" in these case for example Ó Maolbháin which he translates as "descendant of the white chief".
This is a bit confusing as on one hand he says it is the follower or servant of a saint and on the other a chief.

O'Growney goes with follower of a saint as the main meaning of Maoil. However it can also mean the follower of a personal name. See here. In some cases it could be just bald.

Another explanation relates to the Mul or Maol part of the O'Mulryan surname. Callinan on page 8 of "The Four Tipperary Septs" states that "The prefix Maol or Mul which signifies bald or tonsured has never been found applied to the record of the O'Ryans of Idrone, but appears universally in all references to the O'Mulryans of Owney and adjoining territories until the latter part of the 17th century when it gradually became obsolete, chiefly through the substitution of Ryan for Mulryan by Dr. Petty in compiling the Civil and Down Surveys for the Cromwellian government".

It is unlikely that it does apply to bald - there are circa 80 families with Maoil in their surname included in Woulfe's surname history (see here). Most are translated as follower, servant or chief, so bald is one of the least likely explanations.

Maurice Gleeson also looks at the Ryan surname in the key surname dictionaries and the implication they have to DNA here.

I have used the references from his post for the various quotations below.

First we look at Mac Lysaght who writes about the Ryans in Surnames of Ireland (1957) and Irish Familes (1957)

O) Ryan Ó Maoilriain is the correct form in the homeland of the great sept of Ryan, formerly Mulryan; but it is now usually abbreviated to O Riain, which is properly the name of a small Leinster sept. Ryan is by far the most numerous name in Co. Tipperary having almost four times the population of the next in order (O'Brien and Maher). For a note on the derivation of Ryan see introduction, pp. xvi-xvii. Bibl.

IF Map Tipperary (Mulryan), Carlow (O'Ryan). See Ruane.

(from Surnames of Ireland, p263)


(O) Ruane Ó Ruadháin (ruadh, red). A sept of the Uí Maine. The variant Royan is found in the same area - Gortyroyan near Ballinasloe is Gort Uí Ruadháin in Irish. Royan, however, has inevitably been sometimes changed to Ryan by absorption, notably in Co. Mayo, as also have Rouine and Ruane. MIF   Map Galway."

(from Surnames of Ireland, p262)

The abbreviation IF relates to Mac Lysaght's book Irish Families, and Map Tipperary refers the reader to the map in that book on page 222 where the Mulryan name is located. The entry for Ryan in Irish Families has a lot more information:


RYAN, O'Mulrian   Ryan is amongst the ten most numerous surname in Ireland with an estimated population of 27,500. Only a very small proportion of these use the prefix O. Subject to one exception, to be noticed later in this section, it is safe to say that the great majority of the 27,500 Ryan’s are really O'Mulryans – this earlier form of the name is, however, now almost obsolete: even in the census of 1659 in Co. Limerick Ryan outnumbers Mulryan by about four to one, and today there is not one O'Mulryan or Mulryan in the telephone directory. The sept of Ó Maoilriain was located in Owney, formerly called Owney O'Mulryan, which forms two modern Baronies on the borders of Limerick and Tipperary, in which counties the Ryan’s are particularly numerous today. They do not appear in the records of this territory (formerly belonging to the O'Heffernans) until the 14th century, but after they settled there, they became very powerful.

The Ryan's of Co. Carlow and other counties in that part of Leinster, are distinct from those dealt with above, though both are of the race of Cathaoir Mór, King of Leinster in the second century. These are Ó Riain, not Ó Maoilriain: the chief of this sept was lord of Ui Drone (whence the name of the barony of Idrone in Co. Carlow).

(from Irish Families p145)"

Next we look at is by Patrick Woulfe titled Irish Names and Surnames (1923).

In it he states

"1) Ó MAOILRIAGHAIN, Ó MAOILRIAIN—O Mulrigan, O Mulryan, O Mulrean, Mulryan, Mulroyan, Mulryne, Mulrine, Mulrain, O'Ryan, Ryan; 'descendant of Maolriain' (follower of Riaghan or Rian); the name of a family of Leinster origin who settled in the 13th or 14th century in Uaithne-tire and Uaithne-cliach, now the baronies of Owney, in Co. Tipperary, and Owneybeg, in the east of Co. Limerick, where they became very numerous and powerful. In 1610, William Ryan surrendered to the king all his landed property and all his rights of or in the barony of Owney O Mulrian, and received them back by letters patent. The family property was, however, lost in the confiscations of the 17th century. There are many very respectable families of the name in Tipperary and Limerick, and the name itself is very common in these counties.

2) Ó RIAGHAIN, Ó RIAIN—O Rian, O'Ryan, Ryan: 'descendant of Riaghan,' or 'Rian'; the name of a Carlow family who were lords of Uí Dróna, the present barony of Idrone, and are now numerous through Leinster; to be distinguished from Ó Maoilriain of Munster and Ó Ruaidhín of Connacht, which are both now incorrectly anglicised O'Ryan or Ryan


3) Ó RUADHÁIN—O Ruane, O Rowane, O Roan, Ruane, Rouane, Roane, Ruan, Roan, Roon, Rowan, Rewan, Royan, (Ryan); 'descendant of Ruadhán' (diminutive of ruadh, red); also Ó Ruaidhín; the name (1) of an old Mayo family of the Ui Fiachrach, who possessed a district lying between Newbrook and Killeen, to the north of Ballinrobe; and (2) of an old Galway family of the Ui Maine  race. No fewer than seven of the name were bishops of various sees in Connacht, in the 12th and 13th centuries. The name is still very common in that province, generally anglicised Ruane, but sometimes disguised as Ryan.

4) Ó RUAIDHÍN—O Ruyne, O Royn, O Roen, Rouine, Royan, Rowen, (Ruane, O'Ryan, Ryan); 'descendant of Ruaidhín' (diminutive of ruadh, red); the same as Ó Ruadháin, which see, both forms being used by the same family, and equally common in Connacht. Some of the name have been long settled in Leinster.

5) Ó SRAITHEÁIN, Ó SRUITHEÁIN, Ó SRUTHÁIN—O Srahane, O Shrihane, O Sreighan, O Shrean, O Streffan, Shryhane, Sruffaun, Strohane, Strahan, Straghan, Strachan, Strain, Bywater, (Ryan); 'descendant of Sruthán,' or 'Sruitheán' (diminutive of sruth, an elder, a sage, a man of letters); the name of an old Tirconnell family, the head of which was chief of Clann Snedhgile, a sept of the Cinel Conaill, seated in Glenswilly, to the west of Letterkenny, and also erenagh of Conwall in the same district. Some of the family had come southward before the end of the 16th century, probably as followers of the MacSweenys, and settled in Co. Cork, where the name is still extant, but often 'translated' Bywater, as if from 'sruthán,' a streamlet. In Co. Mayo, it is sometimes strangely anglicised Ryan."

O'Hart only gives a small mention of the suranme Ryan in his book "Irish Pedigrees; or, The origin and stem of the Irish nation" (1892)


"THE following is a brief summary of the Irish families in Munster, beginning with the three branches of the race of Heber: namely, the Dalcassians, the Eugenians, and the Clan Cian.
...
VII. Of the Leinster Milesians of the race of Heremon, were some chiefs and clans of note in Munster, as O'Felan, princes of Desies in Waterford; and O'Bric, chiefs in Waterford; O'Dwyer and O'Ryan, chiefs in Tipperary; and O'Gorman, chiefs in Clare.


(from Chief Irish Families of Munster) 


THE following accounts of the Irish chiefs and clans of Ossory, Offaley, and Leix, have been collected from the Topographies of O'Heeran, O'Dugan, O'Brien, O'Halloran, and others:—
...
30. O'Ryan and O'Felan were ancient families of note in Kilkenny, as well as in Carlow, Tipperary, and Waterford.


(from Irish Chiefs and Clans in Ossory, Offaley, Leix"

John Grenham on his website gives a number of explanation but they don't deviate much from the above.

Sunday, 5 April 2020

Are you an O'Meara from Toomevara? This might be a carving of your forefather.


Are you an O'Meara from Toomevara? Then this may be a carving of one of your forefathers from the 600 years ago. I stumbled across this recently.

"Leaning against the inside of the north wall of the ruined church standing on the south of the modern Church is a wedge shaped tombstone. It has a band of inscription down either side and the top half is occupied by an equal armed cross with an inscription below the arms. A band of conventional gothic foliage separates it from a figure of a man carved in deep false relief on the centre of the lower portion of the stone. He is dressed in a tight-sleeved gown arranged in a curious pyramidal fashion below, and with a hood over his shoulders, the gole hanging down his chest in a point. His hands are shown together in front of him below his waist. The top of his head is flat, with what are presumably intended for curls with a band below them. The Black Letter inscription round the sides of the slab is only partly legible. Commencing on the sinister side at the level of the commemorated man's shoulders, the inscription is....



HIC JACET IOHES OMAR?

Here lies John O'Mar?


The style is bold but crude and angular, and the suggested date is late fifteenth century."


Churches in the Deanery of Ormond part II / Dermot F. Gleeson (1952) North Munster Antiquarian Journal

1766 Census for Abington

1766 Census for Abington, Co. Limerick.xlsx