The Tipperary Antiquarian

  From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Shower In the Civil Survey for the area that roughly corresponds to Shower today Dromunedornory, Garrymore & Showrelare / Shourebeg the following are recorded. John Ryan of Dromunnedornory gt. William Lord Barron of Castleconnell Donogh Ryan of Shourelare gt. John Ryan of Craige Esqr Rory Ryan of showre Gent Teige Ryan of the same gt. John Ryan of ye same gt.   In the later Hearth Money Rolls there is a Rory McOwen. Could he be Rory Ryan of Showre? At this remove unfortunately we can’t know for sure. Maybe if we find a record of an earlier Owen Ryan of Shower that may add support to the idea. There are Ryans in the townland in the Tithe Appointments in 1827 and they carry on in the townland into the 1911 Census. https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/10/hearth-money-rolls-shower.h...

Followers of the page will know about the interest I have in the incident known in folklore as "Sarsfields Ride".  For more information you can follow the storymap I created about it here I previously came across a few different songs relating to the event including this one in the Irish Folklore Commission's Schools Manuscripts.  This one is interestingly from a school in Galway "I The night I rode with Sarsfield From Limerick town to meet, The wagon train that William hoped, Was help in our defeat. II How clearly I remember it, Though now my hair is white That clustered black and curly 'Neath the troopers cap that night. III For I was one of Sarsfield's men, In years though still a lad For to be one of Sarsfield's men What boy would not be glad. IV For Sarsfield choosed of all his men The best and bravest men To ride and raid the convoy camps That brought in English guns V Silently we left the town, And silently we rode, While o...

From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Clonygaheen The Civil Survey records that the lads in this townland are owned by the Earle of Bath. However it also says “The sd. Earle of Bath pprictor in fee by Grant from the Croune of the iid halfe pld of the ad halfe PM of ClonigffsYne uppon the attainder of Teige Ryan (as wee are informed) but what rent is reserved thereout to the Croune wee know not.” So it appears there is or was a Ryan interest in this townland. In the Hearth Money Rolls there is a Rory Ryane listed in the townland and when we analysed the various records for the townland we found that Ryans were recorded there until at least the 1911 Census. https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/09/hearth-money-rolls-clonygaheen.html  

  High above Moneygal; is Bendubh mountain and near the summit is a Cairn.  It is described as Dermot & Grania’s Bed in the 25” OS Maps from the early 1900s.   On archaeology.ie it is detailed as follows: “Situated on top of a mountain with extensive views. A sunken area (diam. 2.5m; D 0.8m) enclosed by a low cairn of flat slabs some of which have names inscribed on their surface (overall diam. 5.2m; H 0.4m). This could be a small cairn of prehistoric date or a nineteenth-century cairn associated with a local folk tradition. Not depicted on 1st ed. (1840) OS 6-inch map.” I do recall references to it in the Schools Manuscripts but I can’t find them to hand. Once I stumble across them again I will update the post here. It would be interesting to see who the names inscribed record? 

  From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Doonane Downane appears to be todays Doonane. In Downane the following are recorded in the Civil Survey; Connell Ryan of Downane Gent Edmond Ryan of Downane Gent Rory McOwen Mc Cragh of Downane Gent Daniell mc Phillipp mc Cragh of Curraghduffe   There is no clear-cut link between this Civil Survey record and the later Hearth Money Rolls. However one possibility is that Edmond McTeige is in fact Edmond Ryan in the CS and that his father was a Teige Ryan. Is there any link between the Connell Ryan and Conor Ryan? The names do some slightly similar, could it be a transcription error. The only thing that could be argued as evidence is that Conor Rian has two hearths which would suggest he has a better class of house. Could this be evidence of him being a “gent”? There are Ryans (Including Teiges and Timothy...

  From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Garraunbeg An old name for Garraunbeg is Gurranenagrelagh - https://www.logainm.ie/en/46469 This townland is recorded in the Civil Survey Wm. Oge Ryan of Sollaghod Esq. John Ryan of Craig. Esq. Henry McWm. mcCragh of Curraghduffe. Gent. Morrogh McHenry mcCragh of Curraghduff. Gent. Teige McHenry mcCragh of Curraghduff. Gent. In the Hearth Money Rolls there is still a Teige McHenry. So it is possible this is the same person as the Teige McHenry mcCragh in the Civil Survey. There is are a number of McTeiges and these may be sons of Teige McHenry McGrath. Unfortunately there is no mention of McGraths in this townland in later records. https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/hearth-money-rolls-garraunbeg.html

  From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Killoscully Again Killoscully isn’t specifically recorded in the Civil Survey even though its various townlands are recorded under the United Parishes of Killoskully & Killcomonty. There is however the townland of Aghvehir which seems to correspond roughly on the Down Survey map (Possibly along with Cruary). It is mentioned twice and I’m not sure why that is exactly. (It is dealt with similarly on the Down Survey map). Firstly we have Derby McWilliam Ryan of Rassane gt. James oge Ryan of Gortcassane gt. It also unusually records that Derby McWilliam Ryan purchased his lands there from Dermott Mc Danniell of Aghvehir. Another record for Aghvehir says William oge Ryan of Clonbricke Esqr. Edmond Ryan of Ballyourigan. Gt. This area doesn’t seem to be mentioned in the transplantation decrees. In the Hearth Money Rolls there ar...

From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Oakhampton There isn’t an individual Civil Survey (CS) entry for Oakhampton. Firstly Oakhampton used to be called Colevacke (and its many variations). There is however an entry for Macnigh which is the modern Mackney and just to the south of Oakhampton. Also in CS entry for Macnigh there is a Rory Ryan of Culebacke (Gent) William Oge Ryan of Clonebricke (Esquire)   So it looks like we are in the right area. In the Hearth Money Roll for Oakhampton there is no Rory Ryan recorded but there is an Owen Ryan. The explanation for this is the a Rory Mc Daniel Ryan was listed for transplantation. In Simingtons Transplantation to Connacht pg 113 -   Ryan, Rory Mc Daniel; of Colebracke in Tipperary is recorded as being due to receive land in Boyounagh in Ballymoe in Galway – 400acres. One interesting thing to note, ...

  From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Rossaguile In the Civil Survey for this townland we have John Ryan Craige Esqr Theobald Lord Barron of Brittas Donagh Ryan of Rossygeile Teige Ryan of Rossygeile Mortagh Glisan of Rossygeile   There is no one recorded in the transplantation decrees from Rossaguile.   In the Hearth Money Rolls for the townland, interestingly enough there is a Teige Ryan there in 1666/67. There is also a Daniel McDonagh. Could he be anything to Donagh Ryan if we take it that Daniel Ryan could be Daniel son of Donagh Ryan? Maybe a bit of a long shot.   Ryans are still recorded in this townland in the 1911 census but at this remove it would be impossible unfortunately to connect them. https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/09/hearth-money-rolls-rossaguile.html  

  From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Cragg In the Civil Survey for Cragg a John Ryan is listed. John Ryan is almost the equivalent of John Smith in Tipperary. In the Griffiths Valuation in the 1840s there are over 1300 John Ryans recorded. However this particular John Ryan was an Esquire and owned close to 3000 acres (not just in Cragg obviously). As far as I know he was the 2nd son of William O’Mulryan of Annagh – Chieftain of the O’Mulryans of Owney. At Cragg he is recorded as owning Cragg Castle in the Civil Survey “Upon the sd. lands of Crage standeth test Walls of a Castle & a Barbicon & the ruines an old mill, and are at prsent totally wast wthout any Improvement or accomodacon” His older Brother Conor O’Mulryan died in 1640 and so at the time of the Civil Survey which is supposed to record the year 1640 but is dated 1654-56 he should have be...

  One of a number of large stone circles in East Co. Kildare. Broadleas is on private property but viewable from the road.  It is also known as the "Pipers Stones" (Not to be confused with nearby Athgreany).  “After a little delay, the remainder of the journey was accomplished to the next regular stoppage, at a place called “The Piper’s Stones.” here, again, Lord Walter Fitzgerald had some information prepared for the members, which he read out at the spot. He explained that the existing objects of antiquarian interest lying a short distance to the south-west of Ballymore-Eustace are three in number. In the first place there are the large boulders of graite placed in a circle 31ft. in diameter in the townland of Broadleas Commons, called “The Piper’s Stones.” They are now 29 in number. Formerly they made up a complete circle of closely placed boulders, though now there are large gaps in the ring showing where in times past many had been broken up ...

  From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Mountphilips / Clonecumer Mountphilips was formerly Cloncummer and is called Clonecumer in the Civil Survey (CS). In it is recorded for the townland are: William oge Ryan of Clonbricke Esqr Rory Ryan of Coulebacke Gent John Ryan of Clonecumer Gent Downe Ryan & Teige Ryan of Clonebunny Gent There doesn’t seem to have been anyone here recorded in the Transplantation Decrees. However in the Hearth Money Rolls we still find a John Rian in the townland. It is obviously a very common name but there is only circa 20 years between the two records so it is a possibility. There are also two McRorys and they could be linked to Rory Ryan of Coulebacke but that may be stretching things a little. This interestingly is one of the townlands where no Ryans are recorded in the later records such as the 1911 census. ht...

  From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Tullow The townland of Tullow forms part of the modern town of Newport. In the various records it goes by many different versions of the same name. In the Civil Survey (CS) for Tullagh & Purtanenacasky there are three people recorded. John Ryan of Craig Esqr. Teige Ryan of Tullagh Gent. Hugh Ryan of Tullagh Gent. Intriguingly in 1659 in Simingtons Transplantation to Connacht pg 35 -   Ryan, Teige possibly McOwnhy; of Tully in Tipperary is recorded as being due to receive 340 Acres in the parish of Kilkeedy in the Barony of Inchiquin in West Clare. As the location “Tully” in the Transplantation Decree is uncertain but Tullagh / Tullow seems like a fairly reasonable assumption. What further strengthens the argument is that in the Hearth Money Rolls for 1665 a Teige Ryan is listed in the return. Again ...

  From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Bauraglanna The townland of Bauraglanna makes up some of Glencollow or Glown. It goes by numerous different spellings / versions. There are some possible connections between the 1600s records as follows: Wm. Ryan mcOwny of Glancollow is recorded in the Civil Survey (CS). In the HMR 1665 there is a Derby McOwen. So a possible link here? More definitely there is Wm. Mc Loghlen in the CS and in the Hearth Money Rolls (HMR) 1665 Wm. McMleaghten. So this person seems to have remained in the area during this period. I’m not sure if he is the surname McLoughlin (and variants) or a William son of Loughlin Ryan for example. There is also a Teige McShane in the CS, he could possibly be the Teige Ryan in the HMR 1665. In the CS there is a Edd. McConnor and in the HMR 1665 a Rory McConnor. Again not conclusive but a possible link. Intrig...

  From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Ballyhourigan In the Civil Survey of 1654-56 we find Edmond Ryan of Ballyourigane (Gent) with a share in 230 Acres of land with a Dermott Ryan of Ballyourigane (Gent). Edmond also has a share in Aghvehir (Roughly Aughvehir / Killoscully) & Derryleagh (Derryleigh). Similarly, Dermott of Ballyourigane has shares in Shally (Shallee). In 1659 in Simingtons Transplantation to Connaught pg 51 -   Ryan, Edmund McTeige; of Ballyiorgan in Tipperary is recorded as being due to receive 150 Acres in the parish of Killaloe (Lr) in the Barony of Tulla. There is a Dermot Ryan from Tipperary (no townland specified) on the same page (51) that is to receive 200 acres. Also in the parish of Killaloe (Lr) in the Barony of Tulla. We can be fairly sure that the two Edmonds are the same person but less sure that the Dermot is...