Tuesday 12 November 2024

Civil Survey Notes - Bauraglanna / Glenculloo

 



Bauraglanna

The townland of Bauraglanna makes up some of Glencollow or Glown. It goes by numerous different spellings / versions.

There are some possible connections between the 1600s records as follows:

Wm. Ryan mcOwny of Glancollow is recorded in the Civil Survey (CS). In the HMR 1665 there is a Derby McOwen. So a possible link here?

More definitely there is Wm. Mc Loghlen in the CS and in the Hearth Money Rolls (HMR) 1665 Wm. McMleaghten. So this person seems to have remained in the area during this period. I’m not sure if he is the surname McLoughlin (and variants) or a William son of Loughlin Ryan for example.

There is also a Teige McShane in the CS, he could possibly be the Teige Ryan in the HMR 1665.

In the CS there is a Edd. McConnor and in the HMR 1665 a Rory McConnor. Again not conclusive but a possible link.

Intriguingly in 1659 in Simingtons Transplantation to Connacht pg 51 -  Ryan, John; of Glan in Tipperary is recorded as being due to receive 1440 Acres in two locations, one in the parish of Killaloe (Lr) and one in Killuran (Lr) in the Barony of Tulla.

In the HMR 1665 there is a John Ryan listed here in Glencollon.

The is no way of knowing if these are the same people but it is interesting none the less.

Unfortunately nothing 100% conclusive. We still have Ryans in this townland in the 1911 census. Although it is unlikely at this remove to be able to link them back to William McOwny Ryan (Gent) or others in the area from 1654-56. Any descendants would definitely be interesting to DNA test.

 

https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/09/hearth-money-rolls-for-bauraglanna.html

 

Sunday 10 November 2024

Civil Survey notes - Ballyhourigan

 


Ballyhourigan

In the Civil Survey of 1654-56 we find

Edmond Ryan of Ballyourigane (Gent) with a share in 230 Acres of land with a Dermott Ryan of Ballyourigane (Gent).

Edmond also has a share in Aghvehir (Roughly Aughvehir / Killoscully) & Derryleagh (Derryleigh).

Similarly, Dermott of Ballyourigane has shares in Shally (Shallee).

In 1659 in Simingtons Transplantation to Connaught pg 51 -  Ryan, Edmund McTeige; of Ballyiorgan in Tipperary is recorded as being due to receive 150 Acres in the parish of Killaloe (Lr) in the Barony of Tulla.

There is a Dermot Ryan from Tipperary (no townland specified) on the same page (51) that is to receive 200 acres. Also in the parish of Killaloe (Lr) in the Barony of Tulla.

We can be fairly sure that the two Edmonds are the same person but less sure that the Dermot is the same.

This you would think is the end of the story, that at least Edmond was transplanted to somewhere in the parish of Killaloe.

Interestingly Ballyhourigan to the edge of Killaloe parish is less than 10kms away.

This may explain how in the Hearth Money Rolls in 1665 we find

Edmond Ryan

Derby McConnor

And in 1666-7

Edmund Ryan

Dermott McConnor

 

We can be relatively sure that we have the same Edmond (McTeigue) here as in the Civil Survey & the Transplantation document. (Edmond may also be son of a Teigue Ryan.) 
We can be less sure about Dermot McConnor but he could be Dermot Ryan son of a Conor Ryan.

Edmond was listed as a Gent in the Civil Survey but now his house has 1 hearth. So he may be in lessened circumstances.

Ballyhourigan is also where in 1691 – Patrick Sarsfield’s men are said to have camped and where “Sarsfield it is said was visited by one of the old O'Ryans of that country, who offered him hospitality.” From Lenihan's "Limerick and its Antiquities" pg 232

Excitingly there were still Ryans living in Ballyhourigan in 1911. Although it is unlikely at this remove to be able to link back to Edmond Ryan (Gent) from 1654-56. Any descendants would definitely be interesting to DNA test.

 

https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/08/hearth-money-rolls-ballyhourigan.html