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Civil Survey Notes - Sadlierswell

 

From - The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts - available to download here

Sadlierswell / Tobber-bryen

 

There is one landowner in Tobber-bryen which equates to the modern townland of Sadlierswells outside Tipperary Town, that is Daniel Ryan.

The Civil Survey records that there was a demolished castle not inhabited in the townland also.

In Simingtons Transplantation to Connacht it is recorded that a William Ryan is listed for transplantation from Tobber Ryan. This I think must be Tobber-bryen aka Sadlierswells. However, it’s not exactly clear where he is meant to be transplanted as it is a bit confusing and two possible locations seem to be given.

There is one William Ryan included in the 1659 Census in Clare but there is no way of knowing if it is the same person or not.

Moving on to the HMR for Tobberbrian, the 1665 return features no Ryans but in 1666/7 - a Widd. Rian is recorded ie A Widow Ryan.

Whose widow she is we can’t be sure. If it is Daniel Ryan of Tobber-bryen then she was Ellinora Cody.

The Ryans of Solohead do have a Daniel Ryan who dies in 1679. His father was a William Ryan but was dead by the time this William Ryan would have been listed to be transplanted. Daniel has a nephew William who was married to a Gyles O’Mulryan (daughter of the William O’Mulryan of Annagh).  William’s father is Derby Ryan of Solloghmore – 1st son of William Ryan of Solohead.

These Ryans are a branch of the branches known as the Ryans of Solohead. For more on them see this paper https://www.jstor.org/stable/30004649   

If it is the same branch then they are descended from the Dermot Ryan / Jeremiah Ryan who received lands around Tipperary Town following the dissolution of the monasteries and is buried at the Rock of Cashel.

We can’t be sure who the William Ryan listed for transplantation is but I think that the Daniel Ryan listed in the Civil Survey is the son of William Ryan of Solohead.

By the time we reach the Tithe Appointment Books there is a Timothy Ryan still in Tobberbrien.

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Tipperary&townland=Tubber%20Brien&search=Search

Timothy Ryan features again in the Griffiths Valuation.

From https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/


Ryans continue down into the 1901 & 1911 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Tipperary_Rural/Sadlierswell/

 

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Tipperary_Rural/Sadlierswells/

Lots of interesting threads but nothing concrete. There must surely be some descendants of the Ryans of Solohead living in the Tipperary Town area. 



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