Hearth Money Rolls - Fiddane & Gortnaskehy

 

Created by Derek Ryan

In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665
The following names were recorded in Fiddane / Gortnaskehy townland (Ballyvowne).

Edmond	Barry
Teige	McOwen
Marten	Genene
Michaell	Russell
Wm.	Ryane

 

There was no return for 1666-7.

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression.

So in this case we have an Edmond Barry, possible an old Anglo-Norman name. Russell is another name of Anglo-Norman origin. We also have  Ryan and a Mc surname, possibly a descendants of someone else rather than surnames in their own right eg Teige McOwen actually be Teige son of Owen Ryan. There is also Genene but I’m not sure of that surnames origin.

There is the 1766 census available for the general area but unless someone has a very distinct surname it is nearly impossible to make any kind of connection.

https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/census/1766-rel-cens/newport.htm

In this case there is a Michael Barry could be a descendant of this Hearth Money Roll Barry. Interestingly there is a Thomas Russell in this census. There are at least 224 Ryans in the census.

Edit: Fern Williams pointed out that Gernane could bethe name Guinane and in the 1766 there is the name Gainon with a Der, John & Thomas Gainon. 

The next available "Census" for the area is the Tithe Appointment Books 1827

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=&firstname=&county=Tipperary&townland=Fidane&parish=Kilnarath&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=0

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Kilnarath&townland=Gurtnaskeher&search=Search

There are plenty of Ryans but unfortunately neither Barry or Russell which would have been relatively rare in the area.

There is also an 1835 census available for the Parishes of Newport and Birdhill (transcribed by Hugh Sweeney of Newport Historical & Archaeological Society in Newport News).

There are again plenty of Ryans but no way of connecting back to the HMRs.

Fiddane

Edmond Ryan

Patrick Connors

John Leddin

Patrick Maddin

Widow Ryan

Widow Connors

Widow Ryan

Michael Ryan

Thomas Collins

John Ryan

Patrick Ryan

Brien Quigley

Simon Connors

Denis Ryan

Denis Hourigan

Denis Cluin

Patrick Connors

James King

Widow Ryan

James Ryan

Michael O’Brien

In the later Griffiths valuation (see picture), again lots of Ryan but none of the other HMR surnames.

From https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

The 1901 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Kilnarath/Fiddane/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Kilnarath/Gortnaskehy/

Plenty of Ryans again but none of the other HMR surnames.

And 1911 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Kilnarath/Fiddane/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Kilnarath/Gortnaskehy/

 

So although the Ryan name carries down to the Griffiths Valuation, unfortunately it is too common a name to connect it back to the HMRs.

My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Owney records.
https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html

Hearth Money Rolls - Farneigh

Created by Derek Ryan

In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665

The following names were recorded in Farneigh townlands (Farneigh & Killyn).

Wm.	McMorrogh
Donnogh	O'Tuohir
Derby	O'Tuohir
Connor	O'Tuohy

 

There was no return for 1666-67.

 

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression.

So in this case, Willam McMorrogh. The next three surnames are variations on Tuohy. The only example of this in the HMRs of the half-barony of Owney. McMorrogh is a Mc surnames, likely to be descendants of someone else rather than surnames in their own right eg William McMorrogh might actually be William son of Morrogh Tuohy.

 

There is the 1766 census available for the general area but unless someone has a very distinct surname it is nearly impossible to make any kind of connection.

https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/census/1766-rel-cens/newport.htm

In this case we do have 5 Toohys, James, Patrick, Denis, Pat & Derby.

We previously had a Derby O’Tuohir in the HMR.

The next available "Census" for the area is the Tithe Appointment Books 1827

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=&firstname=&county=Tipperary&townland=Farnees&parish=Killoscully&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=0

No HMR surnames recorded unfortunately.

There is also an 1835 census available for the Parishes of Newport and Birdhill (transcribed by Hugh Sweeney of Newport Historical & Archaeological Society in Newport News) but Farneigh is not recorded.

In the later Griffiths valuation (see picture), no HMR names unfortunately again.

From https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

The 1901 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Killoscully/Farneigh/

And 1911 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Killoscully/Farneigh/

Unfortunately no HMR surnames which is a pity as Tuohy is a relatively rare name in the half-barony.

I will also try and look at the Civil Survey – Transplantation records – Hearth Money Rolls but I think I will keep that as a separate exercise.

 

My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Owney records.

https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html

Hearth Money Rolls - Greenhall & Curraheen

 

Created by Derek Ryan

In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665
The following names were recorded in Greenhall & Curraheen townlands (Currelim Belrehery / Ballinahemy).

Emanuell            Poe

Edmond              McRichard

Morrish               O'Tirane

James                 Hogh

Patrick                McEdmond

Michael               Bryen

Donnogh            Mullowny

William               Letts

Teige                   Glissane

Derby                  Glissane

Wm.                    Glissane

Owen                  McKeogh

 

There was also a 2^nd return for 1665 for Ballinahemy but they cover similar areas.

Edmd.                 McMorrogh

Danniell              McMorrogh

Edmd.                 McShane

John Mchee       Ryane

Mleaghlen          McWillm

The locations took a bit of figuring out, we can see that Currelim is Curraheen here https://www.logainm.ie/en/46407

From there I was able to figure out that Belrehery was Greenhall - https://www.logainm.ie/en/46409

When I was looking at the Down Survey maps for Killoscully I noticed that there was an area beside Balreheie (Greenhall) called Ballinahine and I think this may be Ballinahemy.

So generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression.

So we have Emmanuel Poe as the main landowner in the first return. It actually doesn’t include the number of hearths he has but he is definitely the first name.  A Thomas Poe was a Cromwellian planter and received significant lands around Nenagh, it is likely that this Emmanuel is a relative of his. William Letts also sounds like a possible English name.

They rest of the names in the first return are broadly Gaelic, we have probably Tierney, Haugh, O’Brien, Moloney, Gleeson & McKeogh. There are some Mc surnames, likely to be descendants of someone else rather than surnames in their own right eg Edmond McRichard might actually be Edmond son of Richard O’Brien (or more likely with a name like Richard an Anglo Norman surname.)

The two lists don’t have any names in common. On the 2^nd return list we have two McMorroghs as the first named in the location. Again they may be of the surname McMorrough but it is more likely that they are descended from someone locally called Morrough or Morris. There are two other Mc surnames in the area and a John Mchee Ryan. He could be John son of Hee Ryan? I’m not sure what name that is meant to be.

There is the 1766 census available for the general area but unless someone has a very distinct surname it is nearly impossible to make any kind of connection.

https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/census/1766-rel-cens/newport.htm

There are at least 224 Ryans in the census. There is no Poe or Letts. None of the other surnames feature / are sufficiently rare.

The next available "Census" for the area is the Tithe Appointment Books 1827

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Killoscully&townland=Greenhall&search=Search

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=&firstname=&county=Tipperary&townland=Curragheen&parish=Killoscully&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=0

 

The surname Ryan is the only name from the Hearth Money Rolls that features.

 

There is also an 1835 census available for the Parishes of Newport and Birdhill (transcribed by Hugh Sweeney of Newport Historical & Archaeological Society in Newport News) but these locations done feature in it.

In the later Griffiths valuation (see picture), no surnames carry on from the HMRs.

From https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

The 1901 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Greenhall/Curraheen/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Greenhall/Greenhall/

Some Ryans have resurfaced here as Heads of Families.

And 1911 Census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Greenhall/Curraheen/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Greenhall/Greenhall/

Just one Ryan family persists as a Head of a Family in 1911.

There is no way of connecting them for sure back to the John Mchee Ryan in the  Hearth Money Rolls.  

I will also try and look at the Civil Survey – Transplantation records – Hearth Money Rolls but I think I will keep that as a separate exercise.

My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Owney records.
https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html

Hearth Money Rolls - Munnia

 

Created by Derek Ryan

In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665
The following names were recorded in Munnia townlands (Munny).

Teige	Kelly
Mahowne	Ryane
Edmond	McOwen
John	Cullinane
Mahowne Oge	Ryane
Donogh	McOwen

 

There was no return for 1666-67.

 

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression.

So in this case, Teige Kelly. Other names are in the main Gaelic with Ryan and Cullinan. There are also two McOwens. These are likely to be descendants of someone else rather than surnames in their own right eg Edmond McOwen might actually be Edmond son of Owen Ryan.

 

There is the 1766 census available for the general area but unless someone has a very distinct surname it is nearly impossible to make any kind of connection.

https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/census/1766-rel-cens/newport.htm

For example there are at least 224 Ryans in the census. Approx. 13 variations of Kelly. No Cullinans.

The next available "Census" for the area is the Tithe Appointment Books 1827

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=&firstname=&county=Tipperary&townland=Munnigh&parish=Killoscully&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=0

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Killoscully&townland=Munagh&search=Search

There is a number of Ryans recorded. No Mahowns / Matthews or variations of same.   

There is also an 1835 census available for the Parishes of Newport and Birdhill (transcribed by Hugh Sweeney of Newport Historical & Archaeological Society in Newport News) but Munnia is not recorded.

In the later Griffiths valuation (see picture), there are again plenty of Ryans. However nothing that can be conclusively linked to the HMR.

From https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

The 1901 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Killoscully/Munnia/

And 1911 Census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Killoscully/Munnia/

There are Ryans recorded in both. However nothing that can be conclusively linked to the HMR.

I will also try and look at the Civil Survey – Transplantation records – Hearth Money Rolls but I think I will keep that as a separate exercise.

My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Owney records.
https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html

Hearth Money Rolls - Clonygaheen

 

Created by Derek Ryan

In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665
The following names were recorded in Clonygaheen townlands (Cloanygwilmn).

John	Meagher
Rory	Ryane

 

There was no return for 1666-67.

 

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression.

So in this case, Meagher. However when there are only two surnames they may both be fairly important.

There is the 1766 census available for the general area but unless someone has a very distinct surname it is nearly impossible to make any kind of connection.

https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/census/1766-rel-cens/newport.htm

There are at least 224 Ryans in the census. There are 3 Mahers and 9 Mahirs.

The next available "Census" for the area is the Tithe Appointment Books 1827

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Killoscully&townland=Clonegehdon&search=Search

There is a number of Ryans recorded. No Rory’s or variations of same.   

There is also an 1835 census available for the Parishes of Newport and Birdhill (transcribed by Hugh Sweeney of Newport Historical & Archaeological Society in Newport News) but Cloneygaheen is not recorded.

In the later Griffiths valuation (see picture), there are again plenty of Ryans. However nothing that can be conclusively linked to the HMR.

From https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

The 1901 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Greenhall/Clonygaheen/

And 1911 Census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Greenhall/Clonygaheen/

There are Ryans recorded in both. However nothing that can be conclusively linked to the HMR.

I will also try and look at the Civil Survey – Transplantation records – Hearth Money Rolls but I think I will keep that as a separate exercise.

My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Owney records.
https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html

 

Hearth Money Rolls for Bauraglanna

Created by Derek Ryan 

In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665

The following names were recorded in Bauraglanna townlands (Glencollon).

Derby	McOwen
Danniell	McThomas
John	Ryane
Edmond	McDanniell
Edmond	Hackett
Wm.	McMleaghten
Teige	Ryane
Connor	McRory
Rory	McConnor
Wm.	Brenane

 

There was no return for 1666-67.

 

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression.

So in this case Derby McOwen. The majority of the names are the Mc surnames, they are likely to be descendants of someone else rather than surnames in their own right eg Derby McOwen might actually be Dermot son of Owen O’Mulryan. There 6 of these Mc type names. Mcleaghten could also be McLoughlin. There are also two Ryans, John & Teige. The remaining surnames are Hackett & Brennan.  So if the Mc surnames are potentially Ryans then could have been a heavily Ryan dominated townland.

The modern day name of the townland is Bauraglanna but it was formerly Glenculloo or Glown (various spellings) and geologically it a valley between Keeper Hill and the Silvermines Mountain.

The area had a reputation in folklore as a place where people went when they were on the run from elsewhere!

Patrick Sarsfield and his troops are reputed to have hide in Glown for a time during Sarsfields Ride.

https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4922152/4856621/5012323

There is the 1766 census available for the general area but unless someone has a very distinct surname it is nearly impossible to make any kind of connection.

https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/census/1766-rel-cens/newport.htm

There are at least 224 Ryans in the census. No Hacketts or Brennans.

The next available "Census" for the area is the Tithe Appointment Books 1827

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Killoscully&townland=Glenwillow&search=Search

There is a Ryan recorded.  

There is also an 1835 census available for the Parishes of Newport and Birdhill (transcribed by Hugh Sweeney of Newport Historical & Archaeological Society in Newport News) but Bauraglanna is not recorded.

In the later Griffiths valuation (see picture), there are again plenty of Ryans. However nothing that can be conclusively linked to the HMR.

From https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

The 1901 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Lackagh/Bauraglanna/

And 1911 Census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Lackagh/Bauraglanna/

There are Ryans recorded in both. However nothing that can be conclusively linked to the HMR.

I will also try and look at the Civil Survey – Transplantation records – Hearth Money Rolls but I think I will keep that as a separate exercise.

My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Owney records.
https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html

Hearth Money Rolls for Oakhampton & Foidarrig

Created by Derek Ryan

In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665

The following names were recorded in Oakhampton townland (Culvack / Cullevacke & Hailderrigh).

 

Morrogh	Bryen
Owen	Ryane
Donnogh	Bryen
Wm.	Cabby
Donnogh	Bryen

 

In the 1666-67 return the following were noted.

Donnogh	Bryan
Morrogh	Bryan
Owen	Ryan
William	Cably
Daniell	McRorye
Katherine	Ny Tane

 

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression.

So in this case we have a Gaelic dominated townland with O’Briens as main landowners. There is also a Ryan, and a Cabby / Cably, I’m not sure about the origin of that name. There is also a Mc surname, likely to be descendants of someone else rather than surnames in their own right eg Daniel McRory might actually be John son of Daniel son of Rory O’Brien or Ryan. There is also a female recorded in a Katherine Ny Tane. I’m not sure about this surname, in the Arra area one of the few women was also a Ne Tane. Is that a coincidence or is Tane referring to something else rather than a surname.

There is the 1766 census available for the general area but unless someone has a very distinct surname it is nearly impossible to make any kind of connection.

https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/census/1766-rel-cens/newport.htm

There doesn’t appear to be anyone that could be connected in this census conclusively.

The next available "Census" for the area is the Tithe Appointment Books 1827

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Kilnarath&townland=Oakhampton&search=Search

There are O’Briens and Ryans but nothing conclusive.

Foidarrig is also included in the 2nd return and so we look at that here.

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Kilnarath&townland=Foddarag&search=Search

There are some Ryans but nothing conclusive.

There is also an 1835 census available for the Parishes of Newport and Birdhill (transcribed by Hugh Sweeney of Newport Historical & Archaeological Society in Newport News).

There are O’Briens and Ryans but nothing conclusive.

Oakhampton

Samuel Philips Esq.

William Blackwill

John Brien

Mathew Finn

John McKeogh

Thomas Downey

Patrick Downey

Thomas Hallinan

Pavick Byrnes

Stephen Donlay

Widow Healy

Michael Gleeson

James Hynes

Isaac Stenson

Widow Wixted

Daniel O'Connell

Widow Sullivan

Robert Hewitt

Cornelius Maley

John Maley

John Collins

John Leo

Widow Ryan

William Brien

Widow Bourke

Thomas Bourke

Michael Bourke

Barna & Foildarrig

Henry Lee Esq.

Thomas Ryan

Michael Coffey

William Ryan

Widow White

Widow Gleeson (Nurse)

Widow Parkinson

Widow Ryan

Patrick Healy

Richard Parkinson

Daniel Healy

Jeremiah Connors

Edmond Casey

Patrick Ryan

Michael Ryan (Harry)

Revd. Henry A Sadlier

Patrick Ryan (Taylor)

Patrick Hayes

Frederick Lee

Patrick Ryan (Davis)

Timothy Connors

Patrick Connors

Mathew Keehan

Thomas Hickey

 

In the later Griffiths valuation (see picture), again a Ryan and an O’Brien but nothing conclusive.

From https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

The 1901 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Killoscully/Oakhampton/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Kilcomenty/Foildarrig/

There are Ryan heads of families in them.

And 1911 Census https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Killoscully/Oakhampton/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Kilcomenty/Foildarrig/

 

So although the Ryan name carries down to the 1901 / 1911, unfortunately it is too common a name to connect it back to the HMRs. Similarily O’Brien carries down to the Griffiths Valuation but it is impossible to make a definite connection.

 

My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Owney records.

https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html