The Tipperary Antiquarian

From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Clonbunny In the Civil Survey the following are recorded as landowners in the townland Teige Ryan of Clonbunny Gent William Ryan of Clonebricke Esqr Derby Ryan of Clonebunny Gent Rory Ryan of the Clonebunny Gent Rory McDonogh Ryan of Clonebunny Gent James Ryan of Clonebunny Gent   In the Hearth Money Rolls there some interesting but inconclusive names recorded for the townland. One is a John McRory, could he be a John McRory Ryan, son of one of the Rory Ryans in the townland? The other is Donnogh Ryan, again could he be Donnogh McRory Ryan, son of Rory McDonogh Ryan?   There are still Ryans in the townland in the 1911 census but it is impossible to link them back to the Civil Survey.   https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/09/hearth-money-rolls-clonbunny-rossary.html

  From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Shower In the Civil Survey for the area that roughly corresponds to Shower today Dromunedornory, Garrymore & Showrelare / Shourebeg the following are recorded. John Ryan of Dromunnedornory gt. William Lord Barron of Castleconnell Donogh Ryan of Shourelare gt. John Ryan of Craige Esqr Rory Ryan of showre Gent Teige Ryan of the same gt. John Ryan of ye same gt.   In the later Hearth Money Rolls there is a Rory McOwen. Could he be Rory Ryan of Showre? At this remove unfortunately we can’t know for sure. Maybe if we find a record of an earlier Owen Ryan of Shower that may add support to the idea. There are Ryans in the townland in the Tithe Appointments in 1827 and they carry on in the townland into the 1911 Census. https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/10/hearth-money-rolls-shower.h...

Followers of the page will know about the interest I have in the incident known in folklore as "Sarsfields Ride".  For more information you can follow the storymap I created about it here I previously came across a few different songs relating to the event including this one in the Irish Folklore Commission's Schools Manuscripts.  This one is interestingly from a school in Galway "I The night I rode with Sarsfield From Limerick town to meet, The wagon train that William hoped, Was help in our defeat. II How clearly I remember it, Though now my hair is white That clustered black and curly 'Neath the troopers cap that night. III For I was one of Sarsfield's men, In years though still a lad For to be one of Sarsfield's men What boy would not be glad. IV For Sarsfield choosed of all his men The best and bravest men To ride and raid the convoy camps That brought in English guns V Silently we left the town, And silently we rode, While o...

From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Clonygaheen The Civil Survey records that the lads in this townland are owned by the Earle of Bath. However it also says “The sd. Earle of Bath pprictor in fee by Grant from the Croune of the iid halfe pld of the ad halfe PM of ClonigffsYne uppon the attainder of Teige Ryan (as wee are informed) but what rent is reserved thereout to the Croune wee know not.” So it appears there is or was a Ryan interest in this townland. In the Hearth Money Rolls there is a Rory Ryane listed in the townland and when we analysed the various records for the townland we found that Ryans were recorded there until at least the 1911 Census. https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/09/hearth-money-rolls-clonygaheen.html  

  High above Moneygal; is Bendubh mountain and near the summit is a Cairn.  It is described as Dermot & Grania’s Bed in the 25” OS Maps from the early 1900s.   On archaeology.ie it is detailed as follows: “Situated on top of a mountain with extensive views. A sunken area (diam. 2.5m; D 0.8m) enclosed by a low cairn of flat slabs some of which have names inscribed on their surface (overall diam. 5.2m; H 0.4m). This could be a small cairn of prehistoric date or a nineteenth-century cairn associated with a local folk tradition. Not depicted on 1st ed. (1840) OS 6-inch map.” I do recall references to it in the Schools Manuscripts but I can’t find them to hand. Once I stumble across them again I will update the post here. It would be interesting to see who the names inscribed record? 

  From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Doonane Downane appears to be todays Doonane. In Downane the following are recorded in the Civil Survey; Connell Ryan of Downane Gent Edmond Ryan of Downane Gent Rory McOwen Mc Cragh of Downane Gent Daniell mc Phillipp mc Cragh of Curraghduffe   There is no clear-cut link between this Civil Survey record and the later Hearth Money Rolls. However one possibility is that Edmond McTeige is in fact Edmond Ryan in the CS and that his father was a Teige Ryan. Is there any link between the Connell Ryan and Conor Ryan? The names do some slightly similar, could it be a transcription error. The only thing that could be argued as evidence is that Conor Rian has two hearths which would suggest he has a better class of house. Could this be evidence of him being a “gent”? There are Ryans (Including Teiges and Timothy...

  From -  The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts  - available to download here Garraunbeg An old name for Garraunbeg is Gurranenagrelagh - https://www.logainm.ie/en/46469 This townland is recorded in the Civil Survey Wm. Oge Ryan of Sollaghod Esq. John Ryan of Craig. Esq. Henry McWm. mcCragh of Curraghduffe. Gent. Morrogh McHenry mcCragh of Curraghduff. Gent. Teige McHenry mcCragh of Curraghduff. Gent. In the Hearth Money Rolls there is still a Teige McHenry. So it is possible this is the same person as the Teige McHenry mcCragh in the Civil Survey. There is are a number of McTeiges and these may be sons of Teige McHenry McGrath. Unfortunately there is no mention of McGraths in this townland in later records. https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/hearth-money-rolls-garraunbeg.html