Saturday, 7 December 2024

Civil Survey Notes - Clonbunny

Clonbunny

In the Civil Survey the following are recorded as landowners in the townland

Teige Ryan of Clonbunny Gent

William Ryan of Clonebricke Esqr

Derby Ryan of Clonebunny Gent

Rory Ryan of the Clonebunny Gent

Rory McDonogh Ryan of Clonebunny Gent

James Ryan of Clonebunny Gent

 

In the Hearth Money Rolls there some interesting but inconclusive names recorded for the townland. One is a John McRory, could he be a John McRory Ryan, son of one of the Rory Ryans in the townland?

The other is Donnogh Ryan, again could he be Donnogh McRory Ryan, son of Rory McDonogh Ryan?

 

There are still Ryans in the townland in the 1911 census but it is impossible to link them back to the Civil Survey.

 https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/09/hearth-money-rolls-clonbunny-rossary.html


Saturday, 30 November 2024

Civil Survey Notes - Shower

 


Shower

In the Civil Survey for the area that roughly corresponds to Shower today Dromunedornory, Garrymore & Showrelare / Shourebeg the following are recorded.

John Ryan of Dromunnedornory gt.

William Lord Barron of Castleconnell

Donogh Ryan of Shourelare gt.

John Ryan of Craige Esqr

Rory Ryan of showre

Gent

Teige Ryan of the same gt.

John Ryan of ye same gt.

 

In the later Hearth Money Rolls there is a Rory McOwen. Could he be Rory Ryan of Showre? At this remove unfortunately we can’t know for sure. Maybe if we find a record of an earlier Owen Ryan of Shower that may add support to the idea.

There are Ryans in the townland in the Tithe Appointments in 1827 and they carry on in the townland into the 1911 Census.

https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/10/hearth-money-rolls-shower.html

 


Friday, 29 November 2024

The Night we Rode with Sarsfield by Denis McCarthy


Followers of the page will know about the interest I have in the incident known in folklore as "Sarsfields Ride". 

For more information you can follow the storymap I created about it here

I previously came across a few different songs relating to the event including this one in the Irish Folklore Commission's Schools Manuscripts. 

This one is interestingly from a school in Galway

"I

The night I rode with Sarsfield
From Limerick town to meet,
The wagon train that William hoped,
Was help in our defeat.
II
How clearly I remember it,

Though now my hair is white
That clustered black and curly
'Neath the troopers cap that night.
III
For I was one of Sarsfield's men,
In years though still a lad
For to be one of Sarsfield's men
What boy would not be glad.
IV
For Sarsfield choosed of all his men
The best and bravest men
To ride and raid the convoy camps
That brought in English guns
V
Silently we left the town,
And silently we rode,

While o'er iur heads the silent stars,
In; silvery beauty glowed.
VI
Still silently and stealthly,
At Sarsfields stern command
We close and closer drew the lines
Of our devoted land.
VII
You shall not fail my comrades
It was Sarsfield's voice that spoke,
For Limericks and Ireland's fate,
Depends upon this stroke.
VIII
The password of the Williamites
Is Sarsfield; strange but true
And with that word upon your lips!,

You'll pass the sentry through
IX
The sleeping sentry on his rounds
Pehaps was musing o'er,
Of His happy days of childhood
On the plesant English shore.
X
Perhaps he was thining of his home,
or wishing he was there;
When springtime makes the English land,
So wonderfully and fair.
XI
At length the horses hoop-beat [?]
and jingling arms he heard,
Half, who goes there the sentry cried,
Repause and give the word.

XII
The word is Sarsfield cried; our chief
and stop him if you can

For Sarsfield in the watch-word and Sarsfield is the man." 


https://www.duchas.ie/en/cbes/4569055/4567302/4574420


Now it is one thing to read it but another to hear it and a version similar to it is available to listen to hear - sung by Gavin Byrne and I think it is absolutely excellent. 

https://soundcloud.com/user-588840438-295908759/the-night-we-rode-with-sarsfield-gavin-byrne

The words of this version are available here 

https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=61697

And it is credited to a Denis McCarthy. 

THE NIGHT WE RODE WITH SARSFIELD
by Denis A. McCarthy

The night we rode with Sarsfield out from Limerick to meet
The wagon-train that William hoped would help in our defeat,
How clearly I remember it, though now my hair is white
That clustered black and curly 'neath my trooper's cap that night.
For I was one of Sarsfield's men, in years though still a lad,
And to be one of Sarsfield's men what boy would not be glad?
For Sarsfield chose, of all his troops, the best and bravest ones
To ride and raid the convoy's camp that brought the English guns.

'Twas silently we left the town and silently we rode,
While o'er our heads the silent stars in silver beauty glowed.
And silently and stealthily, well led by one who knew,
We crossed the shining Shannon at the ford of Killaloe.
The Galloping O'Hogan, Ireland's fiery-hearted son,
'Twas he, by many a byway, led us confidently on,
Till when the night was nearly spent we saw the distant glow
The English convoy's campfire in the quiet vale below.

Still Silently and stealthily, at Sarsfield's stern command
We close and closer drew the lines of our devoted band.
"We must not fail, my comrades." That was Sarsfield's voice that spoke.
"For Limerick and Ireland's fate depend upon this stroke.
The password of the Williamites is Sarsfield, strange but true,
And with that word upon our lips, we'll pass the sentries through.
Then when you hear my voice upraised, charge boldly, one an all,
No cannon from this convoy e'er must bark at Limerick's wall."

The sleepy sentry, on his rounds, perhaps was musing o'er
His happy days of childhood on the pleasant English shore.
Perhaps was thinking of this home and wishing he were there,
When springtime makes the English land so wonderfully fair.
At last our horses' hoof-beats and our jingling arms he heard.
"Halt! Who goes there?" the sentry cried: "Advance and give the word."
"The word is Sarsfield," cried our chief. "And stop us he who can.
For Sarsfield is the word tonight, And Sarsfield is the man."

One bursting cheer, one headlong charge, and sabres bright and keen
Are hacking at the foeman's heads where'er a head is seen.
The colonel leaves his wig behind, bestrides a horse and flies
To tell of Sarsfield's daring and the convoy camp's surprise.
We make a pile of captured guns and powder-bags and stores,
Then skyward in one flaming blast the great explosion roars.
And then we sang, as back we rode, with Sarsfield in the van:
"Ho! Sarsfield is the word tonight and Sarsfield is the man."

The night we rode with Sarsfield, I shall always hold it dear,
Though he is dead on Landen Plain, this many and many a year.
Though he is dead and I am old, my hair all silver white
That clustered black and curly 'neath my trooper's cap that night.
For I was one of Sarsfield's men, while yet a boy in years,
I rode as one of Sarsfield's men and men were my compeers.
They're dead, the most of them, afar, yet they were Ireland's sons
Who saved the walls of Limerick from the might of English guns.


Thursday, 28 November 2024

Civil Survey Notes - Clonygaheen


Clonygaheen

The Civil Survey records that the lads in this townland are owned by the Earle of Bath.

However it also says

“The sd. Earle of Bath pprictor in fee by Grant from the Croune of the iid halfe pld of the ad halfe PM of ClonigffsYne uppon the attainder of Teige Ryan (as wee are informed) but what rent is reserved thereout to the Croune wee know not.”

So it appears there is or was a Ryan interest in this townland.

In the Hearth Money Rolls there is a Rory Ryane listed in the townland and when we analysed the various records for the townland we found that Ryans were recorded there until at least the 1911 Census.

https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/09/hearth-money-rolls-clonygaheen.html


 

Bendubh - Cloncannon

 


High above Moneygal; is Bendubh mountain and near the summit is a Cairn. 

It is described as Dermot & Grania’s Bed in the 25” OS Maps from the early 1900s.

 


On archaeology.ie it is detailed as follows:

“Situated on top of a mountain with extensive views. A sunken area (diam. 2.5m; D 0.8m) enclosed by a low cairn of flat slabs some of which have names inscribed on their surface (overall diam. 5.2m; H 0.4m). This could be a small cairn of prehistoric date or a nineteenth-century cairn associated with a local folk tradition. Not depicted on 1st ed. (1840) OS 6-inch map.”



I do recall references to it in the Schools Manuscripts but I can’t find them to hand. Once I stumble across them again I will update the post here.

It would be interesting to see who the names inscribed record? 



Tuesday, 26 November 2024

Civil Survey Notes - Doonane

 


Doonane

Downane appears to be todays Doonane. In Downane the following are recorded in the Civil Survey;

Connell Ryan of Downane Gent

Edmond Ryan of Downane Gent

Rory McOwen Mc Cragh of Downane Gent

Daniell mc Phillipp mc Cragh of Curraghduffe

 

There is no clear-cut link between this Civil Survey record and the later Hearth Money Rolls. However one possibility is that Edmond McTeige is in fact Edmond Ryan in the CS and that his father was a Teige Ryan.

Is there any link between the Connell Ryan and Conor Ryan? The names do some slightly similar, could it be a transcription error. The only thing that could be argued as evidence is that Conor Rian has two hearths which would suggest he has a better class of house. Could this be evidence of him being a “gent”?

There are Ryans (Including Teiges and Timothys, could they be anything to that potential Edmond McTeige Ryan?) in the later Records such as the Griffiths Valuation and 1911 Census.

There is also interestingly a Honoria McGrath in the Griffiths Valuation, could she be a descendant of the McGraths mentioned in the CS?

https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/08/hearth-money-rolls-doonane-toorataggart.html


Monday, 25 November 2024

Civil Survey Notes - Garraunbeg

 


Garraunbeg

An old name for Garraunbeg is Gurranenagrelagh - https://www.logainm.ie/en/46469

This townland is recorded in the Civil Survey

Wm. Oge Ryan of Sollaghod Esq.

John Ryan of Craig. Esq.

Henry McWm. mcCragh of Curraghduffe. Gent.

Morrogh McHenry mcCragh of Curraghduff. Gent.

Teige McHenry mcCragh of Curraghduff. Gent.

In the Hearth Money Rolls there is still a Teige McHenry. So it is possible this is the same person as the Teige McHenry mcCragh in the Civil Survey.

There is are a number of McTeiges and these may be sons of Teige McHenry McGrath.

Unfortunately there is no mention of McGraths in this townland in later records.

https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/hearth-money-rolls-garraunbeg.html


1766 Census for Abington

1766 Census for Abington, Co. Limerick.xlsx