Hearth Money Rolls - Kilmacogue

Created by Derek Ryan

In the Hearth Money Rolls 1666-7
The following names were recorded in Kilmacogue townland (KillmcQuarke).

William Rian

John Rian

There was no return for 1665.

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression.

So in this case we have a Ryan dominated townland with William & John Ryan. In 1572 the lands were granted in Kilmacogue to a Henry O’Mulryan (Ormond Deeds, Vol. 5 pgs 218-219).

There is the 1766 census available for the general area but unless someone has a very distinct surname it is nearly impossible to make any kind of connection.

https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/census/1766-rel-cens/newport.htm

There are at least 224 Ryans in the census.

The next available "Census" for the area is the Tithe Appointment Books 1827

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Kilnarath&townland=Kulinaguague&search=Search

In this there is a Catherine Ryan and a Tim Ryan ‘Tim’

There is also an 1835 census available for the Parishes of Newport and Birdhill (transcribed by Hugh Sweeney of Newport Historical & Archaeological Society in Newport News).

We do have a John Ryan and Timothy Ryan. Unfortunately the names are just too common to be able to make a connection.

John Meehan

William Meehan

William Dohoney

William Hogan

William Callahan

Jeremiah Driscol

Richard Driscol

John Meehan

Michael Callahan

Widow Darcy

Timothy Ryan

John Ryan

In the later Griffiths valuation (see picture), a John Ryan (Black) is listed.

From https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

The 1901 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Killoscully/Kilmacogue/

No Ryans.

And 1911 Census https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Killoscully/Kilmacogue/821747/

There is a Philip Ryan who is listed as a servant.

So although the Ryan name carries down to the Griffiths Valuation, unfortunately it is too common a name to connect it back to the HMRs.

My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Owney records.
https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html

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