Civil Survey Notes - Killoscully / Aughavehir

From - The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts - available to download here

Killoscully

Again Killoscully isn’t specifically recorded in the Civil Survey even though its various townlands are recorded under the United Parishes of Killoskully & Killcomonty.

There is however the townland of Aghvehir which seems to correspond roughly on the Down Survey map (Possibly along with Cruary). It is mentioned twice and I’m not sure why that is exactly. (It is dealt with similarly on the Down Survey map).

Firstly we have

Derby McWilliam Ryan of Rassane gt.

James oge Ryan of Gortcassane gt.

It also unusually records that Derby McWilliam Ryan purchased his lands there from Dermott Mc Danniell of Aghvehir.

Another record for Aghvehir says

William oge Ryan of Clonbricke Esqr.

Edmond Ryan of Ballyourigan. Gt.

This area doesn’t seem to be mentioned in the transplantation decrees.

In the Hearth Money Rolls there are no Ryans mentioned. However there is the interesting Wm. McDerby.

Could he be the son of Derby McWilliam Ryan of Rassane who purchased the lands from Dermott Mc Danniell? One we can’t be sure of but interesting none the less.

In another entry in nearby Cruary there is a William Mc Daniell Ryan of Cruary. Could Dermott Mc Danniell be a brother of William Mc Daniell Ryan?

Looking at subsequent records for Killoscully there are Ryans there in the 1911 Census. However

https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/hearth-money-rolls-killoscully.html

However we also probably need to look at Aughavehir for cluses as well.

1911 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Killoscully/Aughavehir/

1901 Census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Killoscully/Aughavehir/

Ryans in both of these.

In the Griffiths Valuation there are 3 Ryans for Aughavehir.

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?county=Tipperary&parish=Killoscully&townland=Aughavehir&search=Search

In the Tithe Appointments there are 3 Ryans also in the townland.

So in theory any of these could be descendants of the Ryan in the Civil Survey. At this stage it will be impossible to know.

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