Civil Survey Notes

Civil Survey Notes - Glengar

From - The Civil Survey A.D. 1654–56 vol. ii, county of Tipperary western and northern baronies - Irish Manuscripts - available to download here

There was a location called Glandar in Simington’s Transplantation to Connacht that I couldn’t figure out for a while. However an old map that my friend Margaret O’Sullivan sent me from some time in the 1600s I’d say, shows a townland called Glangar, when I researched exactly where it was, it is the current townland of Glengar in the Civil Parish of Doon. This seems to me to be a likely candidate for it.

In the Civil Survey for the townland (Glanegare) the following are recorded.

Wm. oge Ryan of Solloghood in the Barony of Clan Wm. Esqr

Wrn. Ryan of Glangare Gent.

Teige Ryan of Glangare

Derby Ryan of Gortnaskehy.

So in Simington we have a William Fitz Connor Ryan of Glandar who is scheduled for transplantation to Kilcummin in Galway. Could this be the Wm. Ryan of Glangare mentioned above in the Civil Survey? It would also suggest that his fathers name is Conor Ryan.

In the Griffiths Valuation for Kilcummin in Galway there are no Ryans at all recorded.

So does mean he never went? Unfortunately we don’t have Hearth Money Roll records for Glengar to see if he may have stayed around. The next record is the Tithe Applotments.

There are Ryans in the townland in the Tithe Applotments.

https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=&firstname=&county=&townland=glengar&parish=&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=0

From https://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/

There are still Ryans in the townland in the Griffiths Valuation.

And in the 1901 census

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Glengar/Glengar/

And 1911 census.

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Glengar/Glengar/

So based on these records we don’t really know if William Fitz Conor Ryan went to Connacht or stayed in Tipperary. We can’t be 100% sure that Glandar is actually Glengar but I think it fits.

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