Thursday, 2 January 2025

Civil Survey Notes - Mogland

 

In Simmington's Transplantation to Connacht a John Ryan with a location Glanishynavy alias Mocklane is listed for transplantation to two locations in Galway – Kilcummin & Killannin.

Figuring this placename out took a bit of work. Help from the Irish Placenames Research group suggested that Mocklane was Mogland today.

When I went to look for this area in the Civil Survey there was only one mention of a Moghlan but not record under that name.

Luckily in the same section there is a Glyssinivie and its locational description is pretty much where Mogland is shown on the Down Survey maps.

Glyyssinive would have a similar pronunciation to Glanishynavy.

In the Civil Survey in Glyssinive we have the following

John Ryan of Glissinniuie

Teige Ryan

Daniell Ryan of ye same

 

So we have found the John Ryan listed in the transplantation decrees.

Did he go to Connacht?

In the Griffiths Valuation for Kilcummin in Galway  there are no Ryans at all recorded.

However in Fahy in Killannin there is just one, a John Ryan recorded in the 1840s owning his land “in fee”. From looking at lots of Ryan records in the Griffiths valuation, this is fairly rare.

 


There are Ryans still in Fahy down to the 1901 / 1911 census.

 

Could this be a direct descendant of John Ryan from Mogland?

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Galway/Wormhole/Fahy/

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Galway/Wormhole/Fahy/

 

Back in Tipperary in the Hearth Money Rolls the following are returned for Mogland (Moglane)

1665

Keadagh Ryan

Daniel Roe Ryan

1666/1667

Melaghlin Rian

Darby Rian

John Rian

Donnell McKye

Edmund Rian

Keadah Rian

Connor Trassy

Thomas Commin

two wast howses

Darby Reagh

 

So there are still lots of Ryans there and also a John Rian. So did he stay or did he go? There is probably only one way to know for sure.

It would be very interesting to make contact with any Ryans living in Fahy / their descendants in Galway. If they took a Y-DNA test we would be able to confirm if indeed they are descendants of John Ryan of Mogland.

It may just be a coincidence but I think the trail is fairly strong.

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