In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665
The following names were recorded in Mountphilips townland (Clonminer
& Cloncamer).
|
Cptn. |
Chapley |
Cptn. |
|
John |
McThomas |
|
|
John |
McRory |
|
|
Wm. |
McRory |
|
|
Donnogh |
McConnor |
|
|
Amfrie |
Torner |
|
|
Connor |
Oge |
|
|
Morrogh |
McShane |
There was also a 1666-7 return as follows.
|
Richard |
Dingle |
|
John |
Coplie |
|
Umphrey |
Stanley |
|
John |
Rian |
|
Donnell |
McDaniell |
|
Connor |
Oge |
|
WIlliam |
McRory |
|
Don |
Cnavine |
|
Dermott |
Morowney |
Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most
important landowner. At least that is my impression.
So in this case we have Cptn Chapley in the first return and
Richard Dingle in the 2nd. The two returns vary greatly with only
William McRory being common to both. Chapley / Copley could possible also be the
same name?
There seems to have been a number of English settlers in
this area, Chapley / Copley, Turner, Dingle & Stanley all are likely to be
of this origin.
There are a number of Gaelic names in the townland, Ryan &
Moroney. There are also a lot of Mc surnames, likely to be descendants of
someone else rather than surnames in their own right eg John & William Mc
Rory might actually be Sons of Rory Ryan for example. Oge is similar. Cnavine I’m
not sure about?
There is the 1766 census available for the general area but
unless someone has a very distinct surname it is nearly impossible to make any
kind of connection.
https://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/tipperary/census/1766-rel-cens/newport.htm
No Chapley / Copley, Dingle, Stanley.
There is a Thomas Turner though. The surname is very rare in
the area.
There is a John Morony but that is a name that might be more
difficult to link together.
Ryan and the Mc / Oge surnames would be very difficult to
link together.
The next available "Census" for the area is the
Tithe Appointment Books 1827.
No HMR names.
There is also an 1835 census available for the Parishes of
Newport and Birdhill (transcribed by Hugh Sweeney of Newport Historical &
Archaeological Society in Newport News).
No HMR names carry through.
William Philips Esq.
Michael Ward
John Healy
Samuel Preston
William Carey
William Bourke
Edmond Healy
John Carey
In the later Griffiths valuation (see pictures); no HMR
names.
The 1901 Census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Kilcomenty/Mountphillips/
No HMR names.
And 1911 Census
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Kilcomenty/Mountphillips/
No HMR names. Unfortunately none of the surnames in the HMR
seemed to have stayed in the townland.
As a later exercise will also try and look at the Civil
Survey – Transplantation records – Hearth Money Rolls but I think I will keep
that as a separate exercise.
My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Owney records.
https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/07/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html
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