Monday, 10 February 2025

Hearth Money Rolls - Derry Demense

 



In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665
The following names were recorded in Derry Demense townland (Derry).

Samuell Wade
Robert Costellow
Dermott Minoge
Dermott Ryane
Connor McDonnagh
Connor Ryane

There is also 1666-7 addon / additional return.
Peter Smyth
Dermod McDonogh
Robert Costellah
Connor McDonnogh
Dermott O'Menoge
Bryan McConnor
Connor McDaniell

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression so far.

In 1665 it is Samuell Wade & 1666/67 it is Peter Smyth. Has there been a change in ownership that quickly or is it more likely that the 1666/1667 is just an add on?

We find that Robert Costello, Conor McDonogh & Dermot Minogue are common to both lists. Other than Wade & Smyth we find that the rest of the surnames are broadly Gaelic in origin. Along with Costello, McDonogh & Minogue we have two Ryans and a McConnor & a McDaniell. These last two I think are likely to be descendants of other people locally for example Bryan McConnor could be Bryan the son of Conor O’Brien. The two Ryans are a bit away from their homelands of Owney so that is curious but not extraordinary.

The next available "Census" for the area is the Tithe Appointment Books 1824.
https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=&firstname=&county=Tipperary&townland=Derry%2CDerry&parish=Templeachally&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=0

The Head family are the main landowners in the townland at this stage (See Not Irish Enough by Sara Day). Minogue continues in the townland so you would wonder if there is a connection between the Minogue in 1665 and this Minogue?
There is also a Brien, Kennedy, Darey?, Kent and Shields recorded as being due Tithes in Derry.




In the later Griffiths valuation, Spaights are now the main landholders in the townland. The other surnames seem to have dropped away with the exception of Kennedy.
In the 1901 census, Spaights are still present
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Derrycastle/Derry_Demesne/

In 1911, Spaight is no longer listed

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Derrycastle/Derry_Demesne/

My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Arra records.
https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/04/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html?

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