Friday, 14 February 2025

Hearth Money Rolls for Pallas More & Pallas Beg

 


In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665
The following names were recorded in Pallas Beg townland (Palice Beg / Gollicebeg).

Patrick

Walsh

Hugh

McLaughlen

Donnogh

McOwen

Danniell

M Donnogh

 

For Pallas more there seems to be a 2nd return or maybe an add-on in 1666-67

Patrick

Welch

Hugh

McLoghlin

David

Kearny

Connor

Slattery

John

Hogan

Daniell

Hogan

 

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression. Initially I wasn’t sure of the location Gollicebeg but when I noted that Patrick Walsh / Welsh was common to both I figured out that it was a mistranscription of Pallas Beg.

Patrick Walsh & Hugh McLoughlin are common to both lists and are likely to be the most prominent landowners.

It looks as if this townland remains Gaelicised with McOwen & McDonnagh, Kearney, Slattery & Hogan.

Interestingly this is the only record of the surname Slattery in the half-barony. Although Walsh is an Anglo-Norman surname they are likely to be Gaelicised and I wonder is he a relative of Onnor Walsh who is recorded in Monroe or Edmund Walsh of Carrigatohir.  

In the Tithe Appointment record 1924 we find the following record for the townland. Of the Hearth Money names only Hogan remains.

 https://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/search/tab/results.jsp?surname=&firstname=&county=Tipperary&townland=Pallisbeg&parish=Youghalarra&search=Search&sort=&pageSize=&pager.offset=0

 

The next available "Census" for the area is the Griffiths Valuation (see pic).



There are still Hogans in the area but unfortunately none of the other surnames from the Hearth Rolls resurface.

By 1901 we get the following names (Hogan continues but none of the Hearth Money names resurface) https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Youghalarra/Pallas_Beg/

In 1911 even Hogan is not recorded in the townland 

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Youghalarra/Pallas_Beg/

Slattery is a surname that is recorded in other townlands in the half-barony and given there is only one Slattery recorded in the area in this townland, could Conor Slattery be the forefather of these Arra Slatterys? Unfortunately it is impossible to be sure, perhaps a DNA project might be able to help further.


My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Arra records.
https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/04/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html?

 

 


In the Hearth Money Rolls 1665
The following names were recorded in Pallas more townland (Pelace).

John

Shemor

Daniell

O'Mollony

Wm

O'Tuohir

Wm

Henshy

Conor

O'Kiddihy

Mahowne

McConnor

 

 

For Pallas more there seems to be a 2nd return or maybe an add-on in 1666-67

John

Siner

Daniell

O'Maloony

William

Toher

Owen

Cahane

William

McHinchy

Donnogh

Flanoran

Mahoone

McConnor

Connor

Cuddy

Morr

O'Bryan

Donnogh

McEdmund

Connor

McDonnogh

Donnogh

Hogan

Dermott

McDonogh

 

Generally the first name in a townland seems to be the most important landowner. At least that is my impression. So for first person we have John Shemor / Siner. There is no sign of this surname in the townland in the Griffiths valuation. I do wonder could it be Seymour or maybe Shinners? 

The two lists are similar.

Both have Daniel Maloney, William Tooher, Mahowne McConnor & Conor Cuddihy, all likely to be Gaelic Irish. Henshy / McHinchy I’m not 100% sure of but I would think it comes from Hensey. 

The 2nd list also features Cahane – maybe Cathalan, O’Brien, Hogan, McEdmund & 2 McDonaghs. The McEdmund may be a “descendant of” someone else in the townland area. Flanoran is either Flannery or Halloran?

For the surname McDonagh, I’m not sure whether to treat this completely as a separate surname or whether like McEdmund above it refers to a “descendant of”.

Interestingly Connor McDonagh is due to pay extra tax as he is recorded as having additional chimneys because he owns a forge. If there are the remains of a forge in Pallas More townland today it could be located there since at least the 1600s.

There is no Tithe Appointment record for Pallas More that I can see.

The next available "Census" for the area is the Griffiths Valuation




There is a wide spread of ownership in the townland, Hogans & Maloneys (Mullowney) remain. Interestingly there is a Flannery still in place. Does that lend weight to Flanoran being Flannery?


By 1901 we get the following names (No older names resurface) https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Youghalarra/Pallas_More/

In 1911 similar 

https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tipperary/Youghalarra/Pallas_More/

My own analysis of the rolls highlighting the Arra records.
https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2024/04/the-hearth-money-rolls-in-half-barony.html?


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