Civil Survey Notes - Gortmore

 

Gortmore

In the Civil Survey for Gortmore the following are recorded

Dermott O Bryen of  Gortmore Gent

Mathew O Bryen of Gortmore Gent

Knockaneneglasny seems to form part of the modern townland of Gortmore and in that are recorded

Downe mc Donogh Bryen of Knockaneneglasny Gent.

Morthogh Bryen of the same Gent

Dermot O Bryen of Gortmore Gent.

Teige Bryen of Carriggall Gent &

Donogh O Bryen of Carriggall

Similarly Knockanecreegh seems to form part of the modern townland of Gortmore and there is recorded.

Teige O Bryen of Cariggall Gent

Mathew Bryen of Carriggall Gent

Therlagh Bryen of Carriggall Gent

Donogh Bryen of Carriggal Gent

This record also mentions that Donogh Bryen's father was a Daniel Bryen. 

There is another record that seems to form part of modern Gortmore – namely Toburteriffe.

Connor O Bryen of Knockane Esqr

Mortagh O Bryen of Toburteriffe

Donogh O Bryen of Toburteriffe

Doune McDonogh of Knockaneneglasny

Dermott O Bryen of Gortmore &

Teige Bryen of Toburteriffe

So there were a lot of people that had an interest in the modern townland of Gortmore at this time.

One of the most interesting is Dermot O’Brien. He is a large landowner here and in other townlands. There are two Dermot MacIBriens listed as sons of Murrough na Tuath or Tuogh Mac I Brien (who was a brother of Mac I Brien Bishop of Killaloe) however we can’t currently link them together.

A Dermot O’Brien is listed to be transplanted to Connacht in Simington’s Transplantation to Connacht. He listed to be transplanted to the Parish of Killuran (Lr.) Bunratty in the Barony of Tulla in Clare and to receive 547 acres there. There are no O’Briens listed in the parish in the Griffiths Valuation.

This may tie in with the fact that there is a Dermot O’Brien listed in the Hearth Money Rolls living in a 2 fireplace house.

He may also be the same person that is recorded in the missing medieval gravestone in Burgessbeg with the following inscription “"Hic jacet Donatus Dermitius als Bryn de Gortmore'. “Here lies Donagh Dermot O’Brien of Gortmore”. It may be a record of a Donagh & Dermot O’Brien. It is carved in black lettering which is often a feature of the 1500 / 1600s.

A daughter (Shragh) of this Dermot marries a Daniel Glissane.

Less certain there are a number of Donagh (or variants) O’Bryens in the Civil Survey who could be the other name on the gravestone.

Downe mc Donogh Bryen of Knockaneneglasny Gent.

Donogh O Bryen of Carriggall

Donogh O Bryen of Toburteriffe

Doune McDonogh of Knockaneneglasny (probably Downe mc Donogh Bryen of Knockaneneglasny Gent)

However the HMR doesn’t record any Donagh O’Briens in Gortmore and associated areas but there are a number in the half-barony.

In Knockaneneglasny in the HMR there is a Mortagh McTeige who could possibly be a son of Teige O’Bryen of Carriggall.

In Knockanecreegh in the HMR there is a Thurloe Byran who could possibly be Therlagh Bryen of Carriggal.

There are lots of other O’Briens and Briens etc in the HMR but none that could be linked with any certainty.

One interesting name that I know nothing about is a John Roche who appears in various records.

In the Civil Survey in Kilmcstully is listed a

John Roch of Cranagh

He is an Irish Papist.

The sd John Roch Proprietor of one pld In Kilmcstully in fee by Descent from his ffather Thomas Roch. who purchased the same from Kenedy mcMahowne Inheritor thereof about the yeare 1610 (as wee are informed).

Next we find him listed for transplantation to Connacht in Simington’s Transplanation to Connacht. He was to be transplanted to the Barony of Ballymoe and the parish of Templetogher. There are 4 Roches listed in the parish in the Griffiths Valuation with very small holdings.

However we next find a John Roch in Gortmore in the Hearth Money Rolls.

We looked at the Hearth Money Rolls before here.

https://thetipperaryantiquarian.blogspot.com/2025/03/hearth-money-rolls-gortmore.html

O’Briens and Hogans carry down in the townland to the Griffiths Valuation but nothing that can be conclusively linked.